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I received this video from a relative; http://www.onetermmore.com/video_subtitles.html
and here is my response:
Sam,
The message of this video isn’t bad, it’s terrible. Once again I am an Independent and have tried to not engage in political discussion because it has reached a new low in incivility from the top down! I have received this video a few times already and find it the worst example of intolerance and stereotyping I have seen. There are too many dishonest images to address but here are a few:
Using Trayvon Martin’s picture and connecting it to gun owners is wrong and shameless. We know many people who own guns, including family members and I am sure that they do not support the shooting of Trayvon Martin!
Using the image of the Westboro Church with the signs against Gays and implying that the Republicans support this is ridiculous. I never heard one person on the TV or radio who is a Conservative support this lunatic fringe group of 7! They do not represent anyone but themselves.
Probably 99% of Orthodox Jews are going to vote for Romney and I seriously doubt that they want women to end up in the gutter from lack of Healthcare!
If anyone has hurt Medicare it is President Obama and this Congress just read the Health Care Bill (I have read over 1000 pages) probably more than anyone in Congress.
The image of Ford Motor Company as being saved by this Administration. Ford never took one penny of Stimulus money.
The reference to Rush Limbaugh calling women “Feminazis” as if anyone takes him seriously. He is an Entertainer not a Politician.
How about the remarks from a real Politician :. I just read this yesterday:Dick Harpootlian, the South Carolina Democratic Party chairman, made the comment that South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley “She was down in the bunker à la Eva Braun.” Of course Braun was the mistress of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. Sick
I could go on and on. This video says nothing about the positives of Obama’s last four years or what he is going to do in the next four years. It is entirely negative and non factual and seriously embarrassing. What upsets me most is that the first line is about “Democracy” and then it goes on to vilify those that have a difference of opinion. What happened to tolerance?
Still love you Sam.
Holly
I would to hear what the IW Ladies think. I tried to be respectful but honestly I can’t wait for the election to be over!
On 9-11 our Administration Apologized to the Muslim community in Egypt after they stormed the walls and climbed up on them to tear down the American Flag and raise the Muslim Brotherhood Flag. They say they were mad at America because of a YouTube Video of their Prophet. Funny how they picked 9-11.
Two cowards in this story and one of them is Obama. Now the twitter account of the American Embassy has deleted their apology.
@– — USEmbassyCairo
We condemn the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims—
US Embassy Cairo (@– — USEmbassyCairo) September 11, 2012
But Stu…..Obama apologized for us remember? (insert sarcasm) He told them we were no longer a Christian nation, remember? He “talked” to them. You mean after all that they are still mad at us? We didn’t soothe their savage hearts with all the bowing and apologizing? (HEAVY SARCASM) Did Obama offer to buy them a beer yet? Maybe that’s what they want?
Holly,
Great response!
So our Libya Ambassador is killed along with four others and The President and Sec. of State are very, very, very mad.
Stu, wasn’t the response from the President and SOS regarding Libya shameful?
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The two of them encouraged the Arab Spring which has resulted in the death and persecution of any non Muslim in the Middle East. The plight of Christians in Egypt isn’t being reported by the main stream media. Even Muslims that are not members of the Muslim Brotherhood or Islamists aren’t safe in many of these areas.
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Their response serves as a green light to embolden further terrorist behavior against the USA throughout the world. Further, I sure wouldn’t be planning any trips to Israel anytime soon.
Holly, good post.
CJ,
Thank you. I really am trying to stay out of the political discussions especially with our Clients and Family. We have friends who are on both sides of the debate and I am personally sick of all the negativity and insulting remarks. I was so mad about this video that I had to respond. It came from my Sister’s Father In Law, a man that I truly love so I tried my best to be factual and direct while being as polite as possible. I will say that the ugliest and most intolerant remarks seem to come from the most Liberal people! What happened to tolerance?
A very true post Holly, looking at both sides is so hard these days.
Just read this today:
UNREAL… Obama Invites Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood President to Meet Next Week – Refuses to Meet Netanyahu
Does anyone understand what is going on? This does not sound like a “Pro Israel” President to me! Once again I say: “Wake up People”!
Holly, this is the Carter era redux. Our current president, once again, ‘has no clothes’. Sorry all those Hillary fans…she is as much an apologist as is her boss…as was her husband in the role of ‘statesman’. Remember ‘trust, but verify’…not this ‘leading from behind’…but ‘leading from strength?!
As for ‘tolerance’…’civility’…? It’s all part of the lexicon of the infamous: …’depending what the meaning of is…is!’ Only LIBERALS seem to hold the key to defining the inexcusable.
HB,
If your turn down the heat and put on a sweater you will be all warm and fuzzy! 🙂
Love it, Snickers! That peanut farmer actually made more sense than the community organizer. ;0)
At least Carter won’t go down as the worst President.
How does a kid get it??
http://peaceloveprofits.com/
Good find, stu! Thanks. (Short Hills, NJ was wealthy man’s enclave from NYC life…some 50 yrs. ago.)
I know it’s October, but oh my word…..did Romney hand obama his bum on a platter last night or what?? Good heavens what a great night for Romney! I kept waiting for obama to say “But the ladies on The View don’t ask questions like this!”
Kmom2,
Obama got “spanked”! He did not seem smooth and in control, in fact he seemed unprepared and a little nervous, maybe because he did not have a teleprompter. The highlight of the whole thing for me was watching Chris Matthews have a “meltdown” on his show! When he yelled: What is Romney doing? He’s WINNING!” I could not stop laughing (and I was by myself) All I kept visioning was Charlie Sheen during his meltdown saying: “WINNING”! That must have killed Matthews to say that.
Kmom2
You should have never got me started on this thread!!
I just read this from James Carville: My point is this — President Obama came in, he wanted to have a conversation. It takes two people to have a conversation. Mitt Romney came in with a chainsaw. He’s trying to talk to a chainsaw.”
Seriously, that’s what you call a “chainsaw”? What do you call Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Rahm Emmanuel, etc? What a bunch of whiny babies!
LOL Holly I was laughing, cheering, clapping last night and my daughter was getting a huge kick out of me. Romney was so great last night…I bet Chris Matthews didn’t get a tingle up his leg last night! I was watching on Fox. But I have seen clips of Matthews last night. One time I thought he was gonna cry! I think I smiled all night in my sleep!
You can certainly tell how protected obama has been in. He’s NEVER had to answer anything remotely close to those questions he got last night. No teleprompter, nobody telling him what to say, tough questions, no answers. He couldn’t even look Romney in the eye and he didn’t even bother to try to defend anything Romney lobbed at him. He was pathetic, weak and sad.
So Al Gore blamed Obama’s fail on the Altitude……and this man could have been President!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mtkw8stAlrM
Stu, was that the most ridiculous load of crap you have heard? I also don’t believe obama was “off his game” he had NO GAME last night he’s never had game. He’s had someone else writing responses and questions and covering his incompetent behind all this time.This is what happens when obama has to think on his own. Had to use what’s left of his drug abused brain to actually think of answers to tough questions. GAH! The horror!!
I’m just curious who at the White House got their butts chewed out over this. You know Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod attacked someone for this.
Stu,
Many people do not watch debates, because they want their check to continue to come along with their free Iphones. 🙁
O was very off his game, his first run was swagger and talk. Last night he had no interest in what he has done to this country at all. He still thinks his right, which is scary. He looked like a bored 8th grader. I do hope Romney addresses many more of the failed polices, he did talk about the solar failure. I also want Romney to address all the free trips his wife and her friends have had off the backs of taxpayers. They do deserve a vacation, but lets get real here. He says stay home, but yet she gets to jet off somewhere. Working Mom’s don’t get to that, and O thinks he’s talking to the real Mom’s of the world. The parents today are working their behinds off just to pay the bills for their households.
It’s funny how the News Media keeps trying to label Romney as ” aggressive ” .
WOW that was aggressive??
I think compared to obama’s performance Romney was BOLD, but I wouldn’t call it aggressive. He just didn’t back down like obama did. I loved how mad obama was getting……I bet somebody(s) got a royal arse chewing last night. LOL LOL
Today all Obama could talk about was Big Bird. It’s sad he doesn’t realize that anything that receives payments costs the gov. Every year PBS funddrives, PBS could be sold in your TV package just like everything else you pay for. I’m tired of Obama mocking the American people.
Biden is telling everyone the Bush tax cuts will be wiped off the books. This should have been addressed by the President.
If you care about this Country, no matter which Party you follow, you owe it to yourself and your Children to watch this video:
http://youtu.be/TRaLytkf6vU
I just read CA is shutting down gas stations? Is this true? I saw where 4.39 was the price?? CA is one of the biggest commute states there is. Wow!
Snickers,
It is absolutely true and quite upsetting. The lowest price I saw today was $4.66 a gal and I think it’s gone up 30 cents a gal in the last two or three days. We were talking today about “how can the average person afford to drive to work?” My Husband drives alot as he meets his Clients all over Los Angeles, sometimes as much as 50, even 70 miles away. We now weigh if the drive is worth it based on the commission we will earn. I know this sounds terrible but we have never done more Insurance business over the Fax and the computer than in the last three months. In Los Angeles you really don’t have an alternative to driving. I was in Chicago last week and both of my cousins take the EL or the train to work. Los Angeles has terrible public transportation. Another reason for our high gas price is all of the environmental fees added to each gallon.
Nolly,
We are paying $3.74 here, but with cold weather sneaking up on us, the heat bills will be on the rise. There is no public transportation here. CA better vote Nancy and her friends out, the trainwreck has already started for you. I don’t know how working families in CA can keep up with all of this. I have read some blogs, people are leaving CA as fast as they can.
Snickers,
I just saw on the news that some stations are charging $5.99, this is just horrible!
Californians will still vote for all Democrats because it is a strong Union state and most of these people are sheep!
For years, many stations have been clamouring to buy PBS shows. BIG BIRD would get a huge raise IF defunded of government resources! ;0) Plenty of politicos think the mere mention of Big Bird’s demise is the nail in Romney’s candidacy. The very same people who have NO FAITH in private enterprise.
Nothing to add to the sage comments that have already been posted…Obama simply has NO respect for a man of Romney’s character. R.E.S.P.E.C.T. is surely not a sign of weakness. Just the opposite. ‘LOOK at the person who is talking to you’…one of those early lessons parents drill into their children! (I know Big Bird would agree!)
Big Bird should be paying the tax payers of the USA for the priviledge of being on PBS. Sesame Street makes hundreds of millions each year in licensing agreements. Anyone that has had a preschooler in their life has undoubtedly bought Elmo, Cookie Monster, etc. and related toys.
Sesame Street, et al, has pulled off one of the best con jobs, albeit legal, that has ever been perpetrated against the American tax paper.
I guess I don’t know what I expected to hear from the obama camp, but telling a crowd that wasn’t the “real Mitt Romney” on stage Wed. night? Really? WTH? This campaign continues to sink lower and lower with each passing day. I am really looking forward to the VP debates and watching Romney nail obama to the wall again over his failed foreign policies.
So if PBS has their fund drive this year and sends out the envelope in the mail to our home, I will be sending it back empty with the message, I already donated.
I also see AARP wants to distance themselves from Obama now, hmmm, didn’t they support Obamacare?
It’s funny because AARP is expected to get a windfall from Obama care.
By the way gas here in Los Angeles jumped to $4.60-$4.90 a gallon and some Costco stations are closing because of the spike.
Also PBS has some nerve…Sesame Street can help fund most of what the feds give them in subsidies. They just don’t want to act like Adults and earn a living.
It isn’t just Sesame Street that is part of the PBS con. All of the children’s programming has done very well through the years. Additionally, so have many of the cooking and “how to” shows.
As much as I loved Julia Child, she is an example of someone that made millions via PBS.
Holly, OH MY WORD! $4.90 a gallon?? Snickers I thought AARP was all over obamacare too. I thought they stood to come out smelling like a rose because of it. Interesting.
Now Axelrod is just going to keep on attacking Romney’s character…..beauty move Dave. It’s not as if the American public has not been very vocal in their disapproval of negative campaigns. It’s gonna backfire on you but if that’s all ya got.,…and trust me, after Wed. night…..that’s all they got!!
Democrats will always attack character it’s what they do…..they think emotionally. Wait and see the attack on his Mormon Religion will begin soon.
The O ticket now will be unemploment has fallen below 8%, but are we going to count the next ones who have just been laid off or busness doors closed. In my area alone over 300 jobs are gone in the last 3 weeks. If you listen to reports, many businesses are going to close if he is re-elected.
Let them attack the Morman Religion, wonder how he would answer the Muslin connections?
Stu,
LA gas prices, $6 bucks and higher today, guess when gas reaches 10 bucks in CA, the liberals will see what Nancy and her friends have done to their state. Wind and solar was the answer, wonder what happened to that? Hollywood libs can beg for tickets this winter, no one will be able to afford to see their movies.
Stu??
You around?? The debate tonight should show the the American people that Joe Biden is laughing at us all. How sad.
Snickers,
Believe it or not there are a few things more important to Stu than politics and one of them is the Yankees! He is watching the rest of the game now and then I am sure he will have quite the commentary on the debate! I watched the debate and I was really turned off by Biden’s laughing and smirking and eye-rolling! So disrespectful and juvenile. Even my friends who are Liberals were turned off by his smiling and constantly calling Ryan “my friend”. I also felt he was lying when talking about Healthcare and Medicare because working in the Insurance Industry I know how people, especially Seniors are already being negatively affected by Obamacare.
What an ass. He was disrespectful, arrogant, and he looked foolish. CNN said tonight that through polling during and after the debate Biden lost by 5 or 6 points. I was hoping for Ryan to at least keep it even and do no damage which I think it is what he did.
Holly,
Women polled are turned off by Biden tonight. The health care issues is so out of control with Obama, we all will pay the (tax) to get free care. Chris Wallace who is a liberal was very unhappy, but the spin machine will start now. I did see a few interviewed about the debate, there are people still happy about the free phones from Obama.
Hope the Yankees win! 🙂
He mocked America, the foreign issues and our military should be very upset. Also the mod let it get out of control with Biden, typical liberal.
California will just sink into a whole being so tilted to the left. There is a good candidate running against Fienstien but the problem is she has NO name recognition Fienstien has been running away from her. She refuses to have a debate and when a reporter asks her about her opponent she ends the conversation. She is a coward and has stolen a ton of money from this State.
I also saw an interview from a welfare recipient who had 30 Free phones. Just got to love it.
Stu,
We have had several families move to our area from CA. They walked away from their homes, said they were just going deeper in debt. Said Nancy could pay the bills for all of them. They miss their family and friends left behind who are trying to make ends meet. They said paying 6 bucks for gas is going to hurt CA, it’s $3.79 here, not cheap, but far from 6 bucks. As fast as one business opens here, the old stable ones are closing, so it’s everywhere.
Biden laughed the loudest when the issue of nukes, high unemployment, and the situation in the Middle East. He interruped Ryan 82 times, and the mod interrrupted Ryan also. This shows that Biden was all smiles and thinks our nation is nothing but a good laugh. 🙁
Perhaps the most disgusting aspect of Biden’s village idiot performance; his laughter as Paul Ryan was discussing the assassination of a US Ambassador along with the murder of three Americans in Libya. Under no circumstances should any American be laughing, smiling or smirking while the subject is being discussed.
I am finding alot of things lately that are very disgusting from the left. I am not saying the right doesn’t pull their own crap but there seems to be a desperation coming from the left especially when their President did not feel as though he needed to prepare for an annoying debate.
Stu, you are a Yankees fan?! That explains a lot. I KID! 🙂 Congrats on making it to the next round. That was a great comeback tonight. I hope Jeter isn’t seriously hurt. He’s one of the Yankees I like.
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As for the debate, as one of the only liberals around here(even though I like to think I am a slightly left-leaning moderate), I had a mixed reaction to the debate. Yes, Biden was a little over the top. To me, he sort of bordered on rude at times, but I think Romney did too in the last debate. Of course, the flip side is they have a tightrope to walk. Obama wasn’t passionate at the last debate and he was accused of being “checked out.” I don’t think Biden was attempting to mock anyone other than his opponent – Ryan. I thought both Biden and Ryan did a good job overall. I trust Biden to tell the truth more than Ryan though.
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Personally, I like Paul Ryan, for the most part. I like him more than Mitt Romney. I think he believes what he believes and I disagree with probably 80% of what he believes.
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I think Obama and Ryan are probably two politicians who are more genuine in their beliefs than *most* politicians. But they ARE politicans at the end of the day.
Thanks for the Yanks support !! We lost Jeter tonight to a fractured ankle. Bad luck for us.
Now for the POLITICS….Of course he was mocking Ryan, who else?? I agree with you that at the end of the day they are still Politicians. As far as truth telling though you can start with Biden saying he didn’t vote for the two wars and lets skip right to what’s starting to look like a “cover up” in Libya.
The real debate is this week though.
Biden got away with this:
“And, by the way, they talk about this Great Recession if it fell out of the sky, like, ‘Oh, my goodness, where did it come from?’ it came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, to at the same time put a prescription drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion-dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. I was there. I voted against them. I said, no, we can’t afford that.”
Voted against “them”?
Biden voted for both wars, as well as the prescription benefit for seniors. Martha let him slide– and cut off Ryan before he drilled Biden on his history re-write.
I feel really bad for Jeter. He’s a class act.
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I’d also like to take a moment to express my sympathy on the loss of Sen. Arlen Specter. May he rest in peace.
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Stu, we agree – this week’s debate IS the important one. It’s probably the key moment in this election before we head to the polls.
Stu,
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Sorry about Jeters. I’m not a baseball fan, but am passionate about football – know how I’d feel if Aaron Rogers got hurt. Hope the break isn’t too serious and he’ll be back to full speed next spring. I’ll be cheering for your Yankees.
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You were spot on in your last post. The Obama buddy of a moderator, Martha, was terrible. How stupid to let someone that invited Obama to her wedding moderate.
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Biden has always been good at revisionist history. But, that should be expected from someone that has spent the last 40 years as a politician in Washington.
Not just 40 years in Washington but a multiple plagiarizer.
As long as you let Plagiarizers, Tax cheats, Drunks and Thief’s from both sides stay and get elected or appointed to office we get what we deserve…..Politicians who really don’t care about us.
Biden and others who act very indigent when telling us how they are protecting Health Care, Social Security, or Medicare are all full of crap. When they have the guts to be part of the same system we are ALL in and not their special privilege Health Care and Retirement then I might start to respect them.
In my last post I meant to say “indignant” because we all know Biden is the farthest thing from indigent”!
“I take responsibility,” Clinton said during a visit to Peru. “I’m in charge of the State Department’s 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts. The president and the vice president wouldn’t be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They’re the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision.”
Just unbelievable that President Obama would throw Hillary Clinton under the bus! If he and Biden did not know what was going on in Libya after the first two attacks then what are they doing in office? This is a true “cover up” and I personally am disgusted by it. Those four Americans could still be alive today. So sad and also so pathetic that they think the People are dumb enough to believe all the stories they have been spinning for the last month.
Holly, I know that Obama and Biden think all Americans are stupid. But I think they are just throwing anything out, hoping to change the conversation until after the election. Anyone that refuses to see “cover-up” or states there is no “cover-up” is simply putting their head in the sand and not dealing with reality. This administration is beyond shameful and contemptutous of our military and our American way. And here I thought nobody could be worse to our military than Clintons were. Guess it’s true, it can always get worse.
My biggest worry is what they will do after voted out. I seriously do not think we have seen or heard the last of these radicals.
Kmom2 – Already the ‘word’ has gone out…RIOTING in the streets if O doesn’t win.
For Hillary Clinton, of all people, to say mixed messages in re. to Benghazi was due to the ‘fog of war’ & the national security team…then WHO answers the phone when it rings at 3 a.m.? This administration is counting on plausible deniability. Only problem is…so many have been thrown under the bus that there is NO more traction! I’d like to know what Gen. Patraeus has to say! How convenient that the quality of intelligence is only as good as those in charge of disseminating it.
Hiliary is getting something out of this “admission”. obama has offered her something I would bet money on it. While showing she obviously has bigger balls than obama, she wouldn’t come out and say this, not with her sights set on 2016 unless there was something in it for her. This has to be the most despicable, corrupt administration in history.
Kmom2 and HB,
I agree with you both. I do think the Administration thinks that the American People are stupid and will believe anything they say as long as they keep repeating it enough. What upsets me is the lying! Don’t they think people are going to ‘fact check” or even google what they say? I am so disgusted with both sides and the emails and FB posts I am getting from friends, relatives, and Clients, that I can’t wait until the election is over. I am very upset at how nasty and vile the conversation has become. I have not participated in it except here and I try to be respectful. I will say that I have found more “intolerance” and “meanness” from those on the Far Left than from those on the Far Right, but both sides are pretty bad!
Well tonight will be pretty interesting. O has to tread a very thin line so he doesn’t come off as angry. I think Romney just has to keep his cool and keep responding with facts. It’s Obama who is on his heels and needs the win….Romney just needs to act Presidential and get Benghazi in the conversation and the lack of transparency/coverup there is.
I agree Stu.
Amen, stu! Romney knows his opponent is an empty suit. O knows that Romney knows he is an empty suit. It’s going to be a VERY ‘thin line’ this president will have to straddle. I don’t believe Romney knows disrespect. He has a temper, but not intemperate.
Those ‘undecided’ questions…from people who live near Hofstra…wonder WHERE they came from? That is one solid BLUE area. Maybe they came from David Letterman’s audience…Hempstead – a short ride from NYC. ;0)
Lying comes so easily for obama. SCAREY!
I thought Romney did well and showed America he should be the next President.
Stu,
What’s with the new Hillary telling women to quit whining. With that statement,looks like she is whining. War on women, look to the left. This announcement really offended many women who juggle jobs and families. Remember she’s the one who didn’t stay home and bake cookies, she had hired help all her life.
Now Hillary is being propped up and defended by Mr. Bill!