A new Kate Plus 8 will air this Monday night, June 6th at 10:00 pm eastern time.
Kate’s best friend Jamie surprises her with a birthday weekend in New York. The two have a night on the town, including dinner and dancing! But how will Kate handle a loud club full of people? Meanwhile, Ashley watches the kids back home make a mess!
Kate also announced on Twitter that she will be on the Today Show Monday morning to promote the summer Kate Plus 8 shows:
@Kateplusmy8 AND I’ll b on Today Show(last Meredith intv on Mon& othr shows 2 promote K+8 mon 10pmEST TLC. Pls watch-I’ll say hi to my tweets!
In addition to the Today Show, numerous radio stations interviewed Kate on Friday and they will air the interviews on Monday morning. One radio station that we know she will be on for sure is Mix 106.1. out of Philadelphia. If you click on the link it will take you to their website where you can listen to the broadcast live by clicking on Listen Live and then Live Stream.
Update: Link to Kate’s radio interview. Click here.
Kate also tweeted that she will be tweeting live during the show Monday night and will answer questions. Make sure that you always check for the blue verified check
next to Kate’s name when you are tweeting Kate or reading her tweets. There have been some impostors lately.
If you want to see a sneak peek video of Monday nights episode you can click here. We didn’t embed this video because it is one of those that turn on every time you open the page.
Hope you enjoy and if you don’t………step away, turn the channel and enjoy another show that is more to your liking. 😉
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Hope you enjoy and if you don’t………step away, turn the channel and enjoy another show that is more to your liking. Such good advice if only it would happen!
Just because the Khaters are so set on the show being cancelled, all the supporters can turn on every TV in their house to the show!! LOL!!! You can bet they will watch with baited breath and pick Kate apart, inch by inch. Sad that their lives are so focused on a Mom with children. I hope they don’t treat their own children with the same vile hate they express about Kate. 🙁
Looking forward to the episode! The kids look super-cute in the pics.
I finally saw the clip where the door guy (I’m not sure what to call them) asked Kate & Jamie for their ID. The AKOs on Twitter represented that Kate was a rude scofflaw. I have news for the AKOs. The only purpose for collecting IDs is to prevent underaged drinking. I think Kate looks marvelous and youthful but I don’t think anyone, especially Kate, thinks she looks less than 21. THE GUY WAS FLIRTING YOU SILLY AKOs!. When he was asked, by Jamie, I think, why, he replied that a smile would be ok. Kate didn’t say about not showing ID until after they were some distance away, just in the one of a woman who doesn’t want to advertise her age (Kate, there’ll come a time when 36 will look REAL good )
I liked the interview with the guy, who’s a father of four, who got to talk to her. He was really nice.
I missed The Today Show interview. Hope Kate did well.
I posted the interview above for those that missed it.
Here is a link to Kate’s radio interview http://www.mixphiladelphia.com/pages/logan.html
Wow….what a great radio interview.
Thanks for posting those Pam. Kate did great on The Today Show. Looked pretty too. Getting ready to listen to the radio interview now.
I only see a link to the radio show? Am I losing it?
Marnie, the Today show video is above at the bottom of the article.
Maybe it’s my phone, but I do not see a link to the Today Show interview. I see a link to msnbc but not to the interview. I’ll check youtube.
Marnie,
It is not a link. It is the actual video embedded on our site above the comment section.
I like Meredith. She asks questions that I think people want answered. Kate did well.
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The radio show was fun. Kate was very likable – funny and easygoing. When Twist of Kate comes out, I hope she is shown as she was on this radio interview.
Thanks for all the links ! Kate tweeted she also is doing an interview for EXTRA today .
Ahhhh that’s why I can’t see it on my phone. Today just started it’s broadcast day here, I’ll have to try and catch it.
Show Biz Tonight also tweeted that they are interviewing her. Wow, I guess TLC really doesn’t care about the show and are not promoting it. 😉
Here is another radio interview KOST radio in Southern California http://www.kost1035.com/pages/themorningshow/
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Yes, Pam I’ve read many times that TLC is done w/her because there is no promotion. LOL So funny. Again, don’t they ever get tired of being wrong?
I liked her outfit on the Today show. The colors are fabulous on her. So summery!
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Kate came across as relaxed and fun-loving on MixPhiladelphia. She handled sticky questions very well- about Jon, she was very positive; about her body, she was funny and chatty without having to discuss her body parts too much! I also appreciated that she did not want them to Tweet the info on the new sextuplets because haters would get the info and harass the family. She’s right, unfortunately.
Ann, I agree. She was relaxed and fun loving. Nice to hear her sounding that way. Perhaps, most of the stress of the divorce court stuff is behind them. I listened to both radio interviews. I didn’t know Kate was voted class clown in high school. That was an interesting tidbit.
Good interviews.
Love the radio interview and the Today Show. Kate always does great at answering the questions without giving too much personal information. She was so relaxed and happy
Thanks for providing the vids and radio links. Kate looked poised, pretty, and happy and sounded lively & upbeat on the radio. I’m not familiar with Show Biz Tonight. What network is it with?
Here is an interview with People that just was posted today http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20500162,00.html
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It is CNN hosted by A.J. Hammer http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
I like the use of “twist” LOL.
omg! GORGEOUS!!
I added the interview from Access Hollywood above. Also saw this article
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/06/06/kate-gosselin-access-hollywood-jon-gosselin-kate-plus-8-tlc/
That article is unbelievable Pam,
They find anything Kate says and turn it into something negative.
They twist and turn her words into something not even close to what she meant or said.
Pam, The Hollywoodlife.com article is COMPLETELY fabricated! I hope someone calls them on it..
I called them out on Twitter once but who am I?
At least someone has put a stop to the selling of information to this rag. The only way they can do a story on Kate now days is to wait until she makes an appearance and rewrite history.
Would someone let the BKIA that Kates 15 minutes are not up yet?? I’ll bet she is over there hitting here head on the keyboard saying. “It’s not fair” Kate is still so popular and I have wasted a couple years of making up trash about her. Guess Kate is WINNING!! 🙂
Snickers, I think that fork belongs over BKIA’S head ~LMAO
CoCoPuff,
That fork has come back to haunt the BKIA too many times. 🙂
Perez Hilton also interviewed Kate. http://perezhilton.com/2011-06-06-kate-plus-eight-returns-perez-hilton-interviews-kate-gosselin
I thought the Perez Hilton interview was kind of interesting. He asked a few questions that aren’t typically asked. She was quite honest in her answers. I don’t even need to read the Hollywood Life article to know it’s more Bonnie BS.
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Kate looked lovely and was very personable and polished in both the Access Hollywood and Today Show interviews. I’m still making my way through ALL these radio interviews.
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Still a couple more hours until the show comes on in my time zone so I don’t have any comments on that (yet)!
Anya,
I just saw the show, it was pretty tame and you can tell Kate is not a club gal, but she made the most of it for Jamies surprise. Those kids were all messy, but did something special for Mommy.
I liked the Perez interview too. I was reading at WG’s. She says Jon gets the children as much as he can and it’s sometimes more than 4 days a month. How would she know? Is she following them? Is Ellen or Jon whispering in her ear? She’s a lady w/a hate blog that happens to live near Kate and the kids. I think I’ll take Kate’s word. 🙂
Oops, I forgot the rest of my thought. I had been reading around to see what the haters were saying about Jon’s visitation schedule. I forgot to add that BKIA thinks that it is all a setup by Kate. Yes, you see, because of Kate’s outrageous child support demands, Jon is forced to work long hours and has no time left for his children. LOL, Besides ignoring what $s Jon blew through, BKIA is ignoring that most states have an equation based the income of both parents. Kate did not make CS demands, the Commonwealth of PA did that. That’s a hard twist to turn it around on Kate that Jon sees the kids 4 days a month. I personally don’t have a problem w/the schedule, just glad Jon is seeing them on a regular basis. Consistency is the key and I’m sure there are phone calls in between.
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Oops, I forgot the rest of my thought. I had been reading around to see what the haters were saying about Jon’s visitation schedule. I forgot to add that BKIA thinks that it is all a setup by Kate. Yes, you see, because of Kate’s outrageous child support demands, Jon is forced to work long hours and has no time left for his children. LOL, Besides ignoring what $s Jon blew through, BKIA is ignoring that most states have an equation based the income of both parents. Kate did not make CS demands, the Commonwealth of PA did that.
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Sheesh, it’s not as if she’s a family law attorney and should be expected to know this stuff. 😉 Maybe after she learns to spell “cease and desist,” she can brush up on the law. I’m embarrassed to be from California knowing that someone as truly idiotic as the BKIA was able to pass the Bar in this state.
I would like to know how the BKIA as you call her is making stuff up? How is she condoning child abuse? How is she twisting things that come out of Kates mouth into hating? I haven’t seen any bashing of Kate except to highlight the things Kate does that are in direct contradiction to a normal divorced parent relationship.
You cannot sit there behind your keyboards and say that Kate didnt bash Jon in almost every interview she gave. You are only fooling your self if you do and have your head stuck way deeeep in the sand. The things Kate said were uncalled for and very condesending. Those are the things a person says who clearly isn’t ready to move on. How does Kate think ANYONE can believe she doesn’t know what kind of job Jon has?
to unbelievable: I understand. As a retired attorney in PA, I’m embarrassed, to.
I was pleasantly surprised at Perez’s interview. Maybe he does mean it about trying to reform.
TCparra,
I think you asked questions in the previous threads. Some people took the time and answered them. Did you read them? They also asked you a few questions. Maybe you could return the favor and answer them before you ask any more.
TCparra
I don’t read at 15 min normally so I went over there just now. This is the first comment that caught my eye. I don’t like to copy and paste but you are somewhat forcing me to do so.
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“Administrator said…
I don’t think tlc trusts her to twitter away these episodes unsupervised. She might accidentally reveal an extra licked her foot. Every week there’s some excuse why she can’t twitter. She’s beginning to sound like us and our magical remotes that change to tlc! Tee hee. “
“I don’t think TLC trusts her to twitter away these episodes” I don’t know….to me that is more making something up than having an opinion about an action.
I just went over there again and read and I see a lot of what you don’t see…however I do not want to copy and paste her comments over here to this site. I don’t really want that at IW and it kind of makes it hard to point things out without doing that.
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I also see a ton of derogatory “sheeple” comments made by her and at her site so I don’t think she would probably care much if she is discussed at other sites. She must approve of the whole “fair game” thing, don’t you think?
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I see TCparra dropped by again for a little attention again. If she thinks the BKIA has all the answers in what happens in Jon and Kates life, I do have some swamp ground to sell her. I would hope that TC would be smart enough to know that the BKIA is just a busy body with no life, and if TC thinks that the BKIA is so smart and right about everything, why is she over here trying to convince us otherwise. LOL
Snickers-Since you have dibs on the swamp land concession, can I have dibs on offering to sell her the Brooklyn Bridge?
Peggy.
LOL!! I doubt TC knows where the Brooklyn Bridge is!! 🙂
TC – If BKIA isn’t making stuff up then just go on and believe it all. Why is it so important that anyone else believe it? It was asked before, and I see you didn’t answer and likely won’t, is your issue with Kate that she makes her kids work or that you think her fans are stupid?
Has there been any word of congratulations, relief, apology, any acknowledgement at all from the child advocates that Collin and Alexis are back and school and have completed the year successfully? Just wondering.
Teresa E.-I assume that’s a rhetorical question I expect that they’ll either claim that Kate’s lying or that she and/or TLC and/or Steve bullied/bribed the school into readmitting them.
The thing I find most offensive is that so many of them get off on prophesizing disaster for the kids. They are so obsessed with their hatred of Kate that they come across as seeing horrible lives for the children as acceptable collateral damage in their need to harm Kate.
Teresa E. No, they will be waving that banner forever, going on and on about the children being expelled. Same as the stools the kids sit in, they will always refer to them high chairs.
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I would like to know how the BKIA as you call her is making stuff up?
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TCparra, I guess she just thinks it up. She doesn’t bother w/the truth to suit her slant. Same as when she was saying Kate had been found in contempt. She had no proof. She just doesn’t want Jon to look bad. Very silly to risk her reputation as a professional to do so.
PeggyP-that bothers me a lot. They’ve already written the kids off as damaged good. Salivating over the media circus that will ensue with supposed teenage rebellion so they can proudly claim ‘I told you so’. Gross! It’s also justification to continue their ‘advocacy’ long after the show ends.
TC- define ‘normal divorced parent relationship’
You cannot sit there behind your keyboards and say that Kate didnt bash Jon in almost every interview she gave ~ TCparra
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Oh yes I can. Kate DID NOT bash Jon. She told the truth. It is by Jon’s choice he only sees the kids 4 days a month. She cleared up the lies you haters continue to spew. Sounds like you do not like to be proven wrong.
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Kate has clearly moved on from Jon and doesn’t care what kind of job he has.
Peggy says..The thing I find most offensive is that so many of them get off on prophesizing disaster for the kids. They are so obsessed with their hatred of Kate that they come across as seeing horrible lives for the children as acceptable collateral damage in their need to harm Kate.
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I totally agree. Also, since we are on the topic, I just want to point out that the kids seemed to be having a total and complete blast on last night’s show, didn’t they? Tons of smiles and giggling. They were even having fun recounting it during the couch interviews. Obviously, we can’t make wholesale judgments based on snippets of an edited television show (even though many do), but the Gosselin 8 appear like typical, well-adjusted and happy children. Credit to Kate and Jon and the others they allow in the children’s lives.
As for last night’s show, I enjoyed it. I thought we got more insight into Kate. I enjoyed getting to see more of Jamie and Ashley. I think Jamie and Ashley are good for Kate and good for the kids. It was fun to see Jason too. I really like him. He is funny and sweet. I think Kate trusts him for a reason.
Jon has visatation 2 weekends a month. they alternate weekends. He doesn’t see them during the week because he works all day. Whats wrong with that? Saying that he only saw them “4 days a month” made it sound like she was critical of him. Very under handed.
There were lots of times I had no clue what my ex-husband was doing for work. He changed so often I lost track. I don’t think Kate not really knowing the details is not abnormal. Frankly I don’t give a damn what my ex does for a living.
WHen Kate tells the truth and it makes Jon look bad, she’s bashing. When Jon LIES to make Kate look bad, it’s the honest truth…..hmmmmmm
Kathy, why doesn’t he come and get them a couple evenings a week, especially since school is out and they don’t have homework? Since Kate is with them all day, he could take an extra weekend? Most normal divorces the mother works as well and the weekend is the time she can spend with the kids, but that’s not Jon & Kate’s situation, why couldn’t he take them 3 weekends?
I mean considering the kids have voiced their desire to spend more time with him, accomodating them is certainly within his ability. But not his desire obviously.
Kathy-What excuses did you make for his lack of visitation when he was unemployed? Did you call it ‘Kate keeps the kids from Jon’?
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Jon sees his kids as much as he wants to. What makes that so unbelievable?
I just don’t think that anyone knows their arrangements. Don’t always take for granted that Kate is always the innocent party. There’s always two sides. Thats all I’m saying. I don’t have inside info on this……and I’m sure all of you don’t either. Can’t believe anything either of them say. They will each always try to make themselves look like THEIR right.
I think Kate just stated the arrangements. Jon sees them 4 days a month and the kids would like more and he knows if he wants more all he has to do is say the word. But he won’t say the word.
Yes, I dated a every other weekend guy. He was too tired during the week to see his kids because he worked all day. His ex worked all day too and managed to still be a mom every night. He complained constantly about not enough time with his kids. He thought he should get the Saturdays too. It was ok if his ex had no weekend days with the kids cuz ‘she saw them all the time’. When I would suggest rotating a McDonald’s night out with the kids one on one he thought I was crazy. It actually made me lose interest in him as a man.
A normal, loving, “my children come first” parent would make spending more time with them a priority, especially if that’s what the kids were wanting.
Marie S. good girl! It’s still true, actions do speak louder than words.
i want to watch it online. Anyone know any sites?
Kathy-you’re right, we don’t know the arrangement so how would you know that Jon is working all day during the week?
I don’t think there is an “innocent party” in this. I think Kate simply stated fact and since it makes Jon look bad (truth hurts ya know) people get mad and say Kate is bashing him. I don’t think she did. At all.
I really do have to giggle at haterlogic. Kate says Jon is doing better, has a better place for the kids, less tension in their communication but that is seen as bashing, say ‘try’ means that he was previously not doing something right so she’s bashing him. But they can yap all day long about how changed he is, and that doesn’t have some hidden meaning about what he’s ‘changed’ from?
I guess I don’t know if Jon works all week. Usually most jobs are 8 hour 5 days a week. But again I have no way of knowing that. Just like you don’t know if he isn’t working. I guess no one will ever know whats going on in their personal lives…..and frankly ,who cares. If you enjoy her show, then watch it. This is all speculation. I’m sure they both have their own agendas. THAT, I’m sure of.
I don’t think there is an “innocent party” in this. I think Kate simply stated fact and since it makes Jon look bad (truth hurts ya know) people get mad and say Kate is bashing him. I don’t think she did. At all.~Kmom2
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Kmom2, I agree.
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Welcome Kathy, you are new right? Hope you like it here.
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Jess, I don’t know where it is available online. If you do happen to find it please share it w/us. I missed it too.
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The haters will always refuse to accept that Jon is not a sainted version of Mary Poppins on testerone.
Deborah posted on Twitter that the numbers for last night were 1.214 million
Sorry Kathy, I thought you were new.
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Pam, those are good numbers. Guess the haters will have to start all over. Maybe a boycott (yep, I’m being sarcastic)
Am I missing something? I watched and listened to all the interviews and not one time did I think Kate bashed Jon. Actually, I thought she was very kind in the things she said about him, she acknowledged the improvements he’s made, how is that bashing? Why isn’t Kate allowed to date? Jon moved on before the divorce papers were even drawn up. I wish both Kate and Jon all the happiness in the world. There shouldn’t be such a double standard.
I loved the show, it was nice to see a different side of Kate. She was uncomfortable but she went with it and seemed to have fun. The kids were adorable as always.
I’m not sure if Gosselin Family Fansite still puts the episodes online? It’s summer, so I’ll have more time to read that blog too! Whoo-hoo!
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Saying Jon sees the kids 4 days a month is not being critical. It’s telling the truth. Every other weekend= 4 days a month.
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You know why I believe that’s the arrangement? Because bloggers/twits/haters who email Ellen and Jon defended the arrangement by saying he can’t see them more often because of his work hours. Since no one is arguing that he sees them more, why imagine he does?
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Now, I think that when Kate says that the kids want to see him more, and she wants him to see the kids more, but he chooses not to it does make Jon look bad. But she has a right to do that, when she has been accused by people who email his girlfriend Ellen of keeping him from the kids. Yes, that’s the problem with a girlfriend who has a relationship with haters. It gives credibility to their lies, and forces the innocent party (KATE) to set the record straight at a much bigger website (Perez Hilton’s.) If Jon wanted to avoid the corrections he could 1. dump the girlfriend, 2. ask her to dump the hater association, or 3. ask twits to stop lying about it so Kate doesn’t correct it.
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Good for Kate. She responds to haters in the best way: ignore, unless the lies damage her reputation.
I just thought it was a little under handed to put it like that. All she had to say was “every other weekend”. As far as number go…I thought the numbers would be a little better considering all of the “promotion” for the show.
Just to add….I am certainly not a Jon lover. I think they both will have to take responability for what they both have done to those kids. He made himself into a total ass after their divorce. At least he’s trying to at least redeem himself a little or trying to anyway. We really don’t know that he refuses to see the kids. Were not in the room with them. Who would want to be?? The only credit I give her is that she is very driven. Multiples are not easy. I have twin 3 year olds and I can barely manage
Kathy,
Calling Kate under-handed is wrong. She tells the truth about Jon seeing the kids 4 days a month and you bash her for that. She also stated she wished he would see them more. What would you like her to do, say he sees them everyday??
Yes, she also said Jon was doing better, but after spending thousands of dollars on wine, women and song, is it Kates fault that he spent over a year on a party? I for one would wish for Jon much success in life, but with a gf that has hooked up with a hate site is just making Jon look worse. He could control that situation if he wanted to, but having someone else do your bashing for you makes it so simply for Jon to keep the fuel on the fire. Just saying—–.
I honestly don’t know anything about Jons girlfriend. She’s hooked up with a hate site? I really never heard that before. Only heard she had an advice column.
I’m sure Kate did tell the truth but it was done with the intention of making him look bad. You can tell by the “wording”. Just consider the possibility. I think she is still very angry with him. Thats just the feeling I get. She’s not good at hiding her feelings. Whether she’s justified ….I don’t know.
Did Kate say he refuses to see them? I don’t believe he “refuses” to see them. I didn’t see his tweet because he blocked me from reading, but responses to him referred to his being unable to see them because of his work schedule.
At one time, when Jon lived within 10 minutes of the kids, he would pick them up after school mid-week (paparazzi would snap the photos)and cook dinner for them. He would occasionally tweet what he was cooking. I remember asking him if it was organic when he tweeted that he was making spaghetti. (He tweeted back that it was not.) He also mentioned grilling mid-week.
What changed? He wasn’t working back then and he lived nearby. He was home to pick them up. I am sure they miss that, just as they must miss a goodnight kiss. I also am guessing that it was his decision to take the job he works, and live in the home he chose, even though it’s further away. That’s not a big deal to me, he weighs his options and presumably chooses what is best. Still, it’s his choice, not Kate’s.
Mostly I just think Kate wanted to respond to the awful accusation that she keeps the kids from Jon, which Ellen’s hate blog contacts have said. I think she has every right to do so.
As far as number go…I thought the numbers would be a little better considering all of the “promotion” for the show.
For a sporadic show on at 10 pm, the number was very good – certainly high enough for TLC to want to keep filming Kate Plus 8. TLC’s other 10 pm shows average between 1-1.2 million viewers.
At least he’s trying to at least redeem himself a little or trying to anyway.
How is he trying to redeem himself? Is the standard merely that is a job and a steady girlfriend?
Kathy-Are you psychic? How could you possibly know Kate’s motivation? I’m puzzled by your concession that you believe she’s telling the truth. What is she supposed to do, lie to make him look better? She’s never brought this up on her own. However, “sources close to Jon” keep leaking stories that Kate unreasonably bars Jon from seeing the children more than he does, including not having him look after the kids if she has to be away when he doesn’t have visitation. Kate is asked about these stories. If she refuses to answer, she’ll look like she’s admitting that the stories are true. All she has said is that Jon is seeing the kids on a regular basis, 2 weekends a month, and she would be willing to expand that amount of time because the kids love seeing their father too but that Jon hasn’t asked for more time.
Even if Jon only has visitation, if Kate unreasonably interfered with his exercise of his rights to see the children, he could take her to court. Family courts take very dim views of custodial parents who put unreasonable barriers to the other parent seeing and maintaining a relationship with the children. He hasn’t. The only “custody” action seemed more, from the complaint that became public, more about Jon wanting to be able to stay on the property during his visitation and in trying to sabotage Kate on DWTS. He may have very legitimate reasons for not asking for more time, but, even if that is the case, that would make any restrictions come from Jon, not Kate.
I don’t see anger. I occasionally see exasperation and frustration which is not surprising for someone who has to fight off anonymous slurs about her parenting as a divorced parent.
Ann,
I agree with your post. Kate gets the blame again for for Jon moving farther away from his kids. It’s very common for a divorced Father to have their kids every other weekend if distance is a issue. I also think Jon will work longer hours if he can, as if he is still doing solar windows, this job could would be when the weather is seasonable.
As for Ellens hookups with the hate sites, she is the one who looks like a fool. She has nothing to say in the matter between Kate or Jon. She likes the attention, but for all the wrong reasons.
Kathy,
So now Kate and Jon will have to answer to their kids what they have done to them in life?? How about the excellent private school education, a nice home, trips that many parents would love to take their children on, experiences of seeing how a business world works. I for one hope the children are learning many things to help them further their educations in life and be very successful adults.
Just because their parents divorce was public, are these the only public people in life that have their divorce in the news with kids?? Wow!! I look at the Lindsey and Paris’s parents in the news and I would choose Kate over these two Mothers.
WOW Peggy….take it easy. Your are very one sided. All I’ve been trying to say is… unless you’re Jon or Kate you really don’t know the details of their life. She can’t be ALL right ALL the time. If you think that ….then you must know something the rest of us don’t
This is what I find funny, Kate has really gone out of her way to avoid saying anything negative about Jon, I’m sure there are so many things she could tell us about what really happened in their marriage, seperation and divorce that would shock us. I think she has handled herself very well.
Could someone explain how saying “every other weekend” vs. “4 days a month” is different? Either way its 96 hours.
Kathy-you keep stressing the fact that NO ONE knows all the details, yet you seem perfectly ok with saying things about Kate’s emotions or intentions like you KNOW. The visitation is what it is, if it were bothersome to Jon, you would see them in court. That doesn’t seem to be happening. Why do you suppose that is?
Well …then fine! Your right… I don’t know, and YOU DON’T KNOW EITHER.
Why are you guys so angry? Are you related to her in some way? I don’t understand. The only people I defend like that are my family. Not a complete stranger. She is no one to you. She is no one to me but I’m not going to fight for her when I really have no real clue of who she is! Just a reality T.V. “star”.
Why do u suppose u know anymore about our emotions than u do Kate Gosselins? Who said they were angry?
Kathy, as an outider, you are the one who sounds the most upset about this.
I think I know “angry” when I see it. Upset? That’s hardly the word I would use. It’s hard to have a one sided debate. As an “outider” …I thought you would be more open minded. Guess not……..have a nice night
Kathy-You seem to want to have the best of both worlds. You feel quite comfortable in deciding that, even if Kate is telling the truth about Jon’s visitation with the kids, she’s doing so maliciously. However, if any one questions on what you base your pronouncements, you accuse them (including me) of overreacting and being angry. I can’t answer for anyone else, but I’m not angry or even miffed. I’m simply questioning you on some points and disagreeing with you on others. If Kate is no one to you, why are you commenting on her and slamming her motivations?
I can’t speak for anyone other than me either, but I can assure you that what you think is angry in my post, simply isn’t. It’s not even irritation or frustration. I asked some questions. Care to answer or just throw out more assumptions?
Well, I missed that exchange above, I was on another thread…then eating dinner, lol. Kathy, typing all caps for an extended period translates to yelling (and usually anger.) Please try to remain respectful. No one has to agree here and everyone can expect to be challenged. No one was out of line challenging you, IMO.
I don’t think everything Kate does is perfect. I like and admire her, more since her divorce than when she was married, actually. But, no, there are things on the show I would not have shown, seasons that had too many episodes, IMO, responses I thought were “too honest.” On the whole, though, I think the show as it is presently seems pretty cool for the kids, pays enough to make it worth it, especially with how sporadic it is (as Peggy pointed out.)
Has anyone mentioned the classy foot-licking Kate received on Monday’s episode? A family show this is NOT.
Several have mentioned the foot licking actually. Considering that the current time slot is 10pm, it doesn’t really seem like a show many kids are watching unless it’s PVRd.
Foot licking…I wouldn’t have included that, LP. I thought it was gross, but it last 2 seconds. I’m more offended by the 10 PM time slot. Why isn’t it on earlier?
There is a west coast in this country, and we saw the foot licking at 7 if we so chose. Therefore we could be offended earlier, as well as our darling children.
Kate did say supportive things about Jon. All back-handed compliments.
I recall that Jon did go to court to try to maintain his New Year holiday time with the children. It was denied because the judge decided to let the kids go to Australia instead.
A little truthfulness and balance would be appreciated.
Thanks, Mary.
I think people need to see positive comments about Jon as backhanded compliments coming from Kate. If a hater points out the same exact things it’s considered ‘truth’.
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Jon’s attempt at blocking the Australia trip has nothing to do with his current visitation schedule. He still chooses to not seek more time with them on a regular basis. A fact haters still claim to be Kate’s fault. Truth and balance please!
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The toe licking isn’t my cup of tea, but considering that the toe licking was in most previews for the show, people could have decided before hand whether or not to watch the episode or let their kids watch. I find it more than amusing that haters get so up in arms about watching something on a show that they don’t like.
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I think the haters conveniently forget that their arguement has been the evils of viewing children as entertainment and exploiting their lives. Do your cause some justice and not watch!
I’ve also seen and heard far more offensive things on the Nickelodeon Channel that is marketed for children and is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I’ve had to change the channel more than a few times. I’ve also seen far more provocative things at a shopping mall that I’ve had to explain to my kids.
I could have done without the foot licking but I have seen worse on shows made just for kids.
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Yes, the judge denied Jon’s request. He has all the facts and decided to let them go. I’m glad he did because the episode showed the kids had a blast and experienced things most never will.
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I don’t think they were back handed compliments. She was asked questions and she told the truth. It seems the Jon lovers can’t handle the truth and are upset their theory that Kate keeps the kids from Jon was proven wrong.
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What anyone thinks of the show is not the truth it is an opinion. If this site wasn’t balanced you would not be allowed to post the same thing over and over.
I’ve only seen clips from this episode, but the whole toe licking thing seemed kind of gross. What happened to her germ phobia?
Hi Wendy, I’ve only seen the clip too. Guess the alcohol kills the germs. LOL
So let me get this straight. It’s ok for Jon to be jet setting around the world with different girls, smoking pot, etc etc etc and trampzing around in Ed Hardy wear (it should be illegal to wear that clothing line ;-)), but Kate goes out on the town one time and lets loose and it’s the end of the world? By golly, that poor lady.
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I didn’t particularly care for the foot-licking myself, but who am to say what she can or cannot do? Kate’s a grown woman perfectly capable of making moral choices for herself. I’ve seen MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, worse than that on Disney channel and children’s programming.
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As far as Kate bashing Jon (I don’t follow everything Kate, so I haven’t seen or read any of her interviews) from what I saw on the show, Kate was being vulnerable (something we rarely see with her) with a guy who was in a similar situation at the bar. Perhaps my thinking is flawed, but I don’t see where she ever bashed Jon in anything she said. All she said was that he was not the same person. Is that not the truth?
You will NEVER see her as bashing Jon because you are conditioned to defend, defend ,defend her. You will always justify whatever she does so it really doesn’t matter what the complaint is. We don’t know if he’s the same person or not. You are taking her word for it. If you want to believe everything She says….then go ahead. This is not black and white. You would probably be shocked if you knew the real story behind those two. They both share quilt.
But, Kathy, OTOH, you will ALWAYS see her as bashing, because you attack, attack, attack Kate, no matter what she says or how she says it. Perhaps it’s time to call it a draw.
The Webster’s dictionary defines opinion as “a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter”. It is my opinion Kate did not bash Jon and I am entitled to that view.
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In post #93 you admit you don’t know all the details of Jon & Kate but now you say “You would probably be shocked if you knew the real story behind those two.” Have you been reading at the Kate hate sites since you left your comment yesterday?
Ok, seriously do not get me started on the inappropriate crap on TV. Ever see “The Secret Life of the American Teenager”? “Jersey Shore?” There were times during the show, when they were married that I would cringe at the way Kate spoke to Jon. I don’t agree with everything she said or did by any means,and most women here or over at Sage will tell you the same thing. But given Jon’s very PUBLIC childish and outrageous behavior I think we have been given some insigt as to WHY Kate treated him like she did. I’m not angry. I will not always defend, what anyone does. But I will defend her right to tell the truth, answer a question,or state a fact if she is asked. If someone thinks it makes Jon look bad, then maybe JON should change those facts.
Mary,
No need to get personal….call people names. Not needed for a discussion.
I have to ask….if you were having a discussion face to face with someone that you did not really know….would you call them a blockhead for their opinion?
Kathy says…This is not black and white. You would probably be shocked if you knew the real story behind those two. They both share quilt.
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I doubt I would be shocked and I don’t see this situation as black and white. Nor do the majority that post here. It takes two to make a marriage and two to end it.
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Just a quick glance at the last several posts (take #110, #112 and #116), you will see criticism of some of Kate’s words and actions. I’m not sure what more you are expecting? Nobody here is claiming Kate is a saint. What is the problem with trying to trying to understand her actions and not just bash? There are plenty of sites that just bash her. Sometimes a different approach is nice, IMO.
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Judy, I’m all for a draw.
Pam you get personal enough to delete my comment, then use the word blockhead yourself (so that can’t be the offending word) and yet want me to respond to it. That really takes guts.
Mary,
Then guts I have. You called someone a blockhead. I did not. And yes we do delete comments here when you call someone names.
I am generally a Kate supporter and I can see how someone would think her comments were a passive aggressive dig at Jon. Maybe they were but none of us know for sure. For me, personally, when I don’t know someone’s intentions, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt and just assume the comments were honest and innocent because that’s how I would want to be treated.
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I was not offended by the foot licking and it wouldn’t concern me if my kids saw it because they are innocent. They are also very young. It is adults who sexualize things. Even for the teen and tween crowd, licking a foot is probably tame compared to what they see and hear their friends do or what they do themselves. I know, no one wants to think about that but I thought I would just put it out there.
#83 & #113 I’m having a hard time believing these were written by the same person. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Kate Gosselin agrees with your thoughts on Jon, she voiced them as such, but when she says it it’s bad, but when you say it it’s ok?
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No one has claimed saint status for Kate or that she is right 100% of the time or that anyone agrees with her 100% of the time. More than a few have clarified this for you but you seem to just not acknowledge it.
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More than a few have also agreed with you that we don’t know if Jon Gosselin is the same person or not. But I’m also willing to believe that Kate Gosselin knows who Jon was, became and is.
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Also wanted to add that if you don’t want to believe that Ellen is hooked up with haters, that is fine. But it is really quite easy to find that info on the net. Jon and Ellen’s tweets are protected, they control who follows them. It’s not really that difficult to figure out who follows them, especially since Kate is now on twitter. A simple search of Kate’s tweets lead you to a few haters, and a few of those haters are allowed to follow both Jon and Ellen. A few of those haters not only harass Kate all day long, they retweet Kate’s tweets to Jon and Ellen. Now what would 2 people craving the private ordinary life, being so in love and over Kate Gosselin want with that kind of nonsense? Hmmmmmmm
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The toe licking wasn’t offensive to me, don’t confuse that with agreeing with a behavior. My kids watched the episode. They didn’t even pay attention to the parts where Kate was the focus. If they had seen it and asked what that was all about, it’s a teachable moment that would have been no more uncomfortable than the daily questions they throw at me.
Kathy,
You are the one attacking posters and comments here. Others have just questioned what you said. Are you related to Jon and see that he is the perfect Father. I for one along with the others here have stated what flaws we have seen in both parents and what has been filmed. For 22 minutes a show, no one has seen everything in their lives. Why is it that Kate is not allowed to say anything about Jon, but the source close to Jon call sell stories to the tabs for $$$. If Jon has stated to the public that he has the kids 4 days a month, Kate was telling the truth and just repeating what Jon had already said.
As for being shocked, ya, Jon shocked me. Who would have thought that bar hopping at legends, having nights out with a teacher, nannies in the hot tub while his children were present, Morgan in Utah, Hailey in NY, and now Ellen. A year long party of travel, booze, smoking, expensive apt in NY, nice 2 seat car and not working, I’ll call that shocked. His own brother kicked him out of their home.
Kate has made mistakes, she will continue to make mistakes, she is human. But all in all, she has been the stable parent for the children from what I can see. Sometimes I think TLC films for reaction, just like the do when they say the Duggers have a announcement to make. I didn’t care for the foot lick either, but life went on for me. Getting hung up on a 4 second clip is so overblown.
I think if Mother’s really watched some cartoons with their children, they would turn the channel if they were concerned parents of what is on TV. Just saying——!
Good point, Lily 🙂
Mary, Pam simply — — USED the word “blockhead” she didn’t call someone a “blockhead”. There’s a difference.
I apologize to Mary if I read that wrong. I actually thought she was calling you a blockhead kmom2, LOL. I thought you had said something about watching Jersey Shores.
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Oh I did. I was talking about inappropiate things on TV and mentioned Jersey Shore, which in my opinion is one of the most appalling shows!!
She might have called me blockhead……LOL I didn’t see it.
kmom2,
I give up, LOL. I reread you comment. I see you were explaining to Mary that I did not call her Blockhead.
Thanks,
LOL….yep. There’s a difference I think. And if someone thinks I’m a blockhead because I think Jersey Shore is an offensive show…..I can live with that. LOL LOL
I said it before….I don’t care for either one of them. I’m not attacking anyone. Where did that come from? I comment on Kate because she is in the public eye. Jon is more of a private citizen. I don’t think it’s fair that she talks about private matters in front of a T.V. camera but he no chance of defending himself. So all you’re hearing is her side of EVERYTHING.
Kathy,
Jon has spoken out many times about Kate in TV interviews. Please go back and listen to them. Kate has her faults just like anyone else in life has, but she has only confirmed what Jon himself or a source close to him has said. Kate is in the public eye because of the show, but does that give people the right to have hate blogs on her. Jon is only private when he wants to be private. Saying someone has their own children 4 days a month is really not a private issue. The kids friends would know this if they are out of town with their Dad. It’s really a non-issue. 🙂 She was asked a question, it’s not like she is telling every detail of how much money he spent the year he partied all over the country. Jon told everything, his soulmate (Hailey), he would steal his kids money, etc. Now that is what should have remained private.
Kathy,
Just wanted to add, you can join twitter and friend Jon and they you will know what he is doing and saying. Why has he blocked people who have never said a unkind word to him??
Kate tells everything?? Really?? Can you tell me what everything means in your book?? I am curious to know? 🙂
Look, the word blockhead aside which is worse than a swear word apparantly, I have never even seen Jersey Shore and don’t know when it is on and would not watch if I came across it. Prejudice, well I guess you could say so, but I don’t care. Same with all housewive shows (#viewed=0) and a lot more in popular culture. I don’t know what I said any more KMOM, maybe that you’d have to be a blockhead to watch it, but whatever, mean no offense to you at all. I don’t even know you, but think favorably of you for not watching such trash, at least imo it’s trash.
Should stop before I manage to type myself into misinterpretation again.
I remain for balance and fairness in opinions.
Kmom2, I don’t know anymore what my comment was, but I know what it was not. I did not call you or anybody a blockhead for not watching Jersey Shore. I’ve never seen it in my life. Ditto with housewive shows, etc. Can’t bear the sluttiness and conflict. Hurts me to the core. Which is why my original and first comment today merely went to asking for more balance and fairness toward what Kathy posted. No, don’t know Kathy either. She seemed to be attacked for posting anything not 100% pro Kate. There is always another side and she seemed to be very nicely making points, not nasty. Don’t like or dislike anybody here yet. My first time posting.
Mary,
For some reason I found your comments hanging the spam. I think I cleared that up. Not sure which one you want posted so I left both of them.
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Again, I thought you were calling someone a blockhead…it is not that I thought that blockhead was a “bad” word. If you were not, it was my mistake and I apologize. .
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Also, no one was attacking anyone on this thread. They were responding to comments made. That is what this site is about. Discussion and debate. Because the majority of people posting have a different opinion than Kathy’s, does not mean they were “attacking” her.
Pam I am new today to this thread as you know. It sure looked to me like there was an attack on everything Kathy said, and from what I read, she did not seem extreme. I know only from what I viewed today. There seemed to be an implication that she should go join Jon’s twitter site or something when it really didn’t sound to me like she was a big Jon supported. That came across as nasty. Maybe these threads and the discussion had been going on for a long time, and there was a long history, but I don’t know. For a newby, it sounded very nasty and unwelcoming. It did not sound like gentle disagreement.
I remain for balance and fairness in opinions ~ Mary
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With all due respect, it seems you only think your opinion is fair and balanced and any opposing opinion is “attacking”.
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Please reread the thread. The only nasty I see are the comments you and Kathy left. You both do not like it when someone questions your opinion.
Mary,
I”m sorry if you thought I was atacking a poster here. Kathy seemed to be putting Kate down for EVERYTHING. Fair and balanced is ok, as long as it goes both ways. I support all Mom’s and women who are strong and have to support their children, although I have given Jon thumbs up when he has done good things also. I think many have blogged on the G’s much longer than I have, but when hate blogs are set up just to attack Kate, something is wrong with the whole picture. I have never seen a blog set up just to hate on Jon, so people share their views here and other blogs.
Welcome Mary!! 🙂
I’m sure if someone wanted to…they can set up a hate blog for Jon. I don’t think you would get a lot of traffic. As far as him talking about Kate and all of his stupid behavior….That was all a pretty long time ago. You all seem to be holding it over his head. I have seen a lot of change in him. Thats to his credit.
Kathy, can you tell us where you have seen the change in Jon? Is it because he has a job now? Is it because he no longer posts except to his 68K+ closest friends? Are you following him on Twitter or Facebook? He’s kicked everyone who posts on this blog or Sage’s or Ziggy out, as did Ellen. Most of us had never posted one word to him, but he booted us out nonetheless because we support Kate.
I don’t know of anyone who supports Kate who would stoop to start a hate blog on Jon, as many of Jon’s followers have done about Kate. Just check out the 24/7 hate and filth filled attacks on Kate’s twitter and you will see what we mean.
Today on Twitter:
sethgoldstein Seth Goldstein
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Why in God’s name am I being @ replies by these crazy @kateplusmy8 haters. I just wrote her a freaking questions. Leave me alone.
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Mary.,….its good. No offense taken. I didn’t see the original comment. I do agree with you about all the housewives shows. It’s a culture of hatred and disrespect, no morals, no manners on TV today. In comparing the few seconds of Kate’s foot licking thing to shows like Jersey Shore et al, I think the foot licking was completely benign, that’s all.
Kathy, Jon is “private” because he DESTROYED all his opportunities and demonstrated poor decision making and no one wanted to deal with him. So in essence he had no choice but to become “private”. Please don’t take this the wrong way, I’m not attacking you, I’m simply saying becoming “private” is not a change in Jon. It was his only option after self destructing in public.
Am I missing something. How can you say ‘he’s gone private’ and ‘I’ve seen a lot of change in him’. Is going private the ‘a lot of change’. Is the not being in all the tabloids and talk shows the ‘a lot of change’. If the criteria is consistent love interest and employment then that’s not much change from the days of being married to Kate. I’d like to know the changes seen too?
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Kmom2-ITA. Jon is ‘private’ because no one wants him. He said so himself that his goal was to be on tv, he isn’t on tv because he poorly marketed himself and aligned himself with the likes of Micheal Lohan. It killed any career he wanted on tv.
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PAM-there are a number of those types of things on twitter. Someone asks Kate a question and 2-3 haters grab it and go. Same sort of thing with MixPhiladelphia and Kate’s hairdresser. Yesterday one of those haters was retweeting Kate’s words to Jon and another tweeted Jon about being with his kids while Kate was in NYC. From her next tweet it was obvious that Jon had replied to her about it and in her reply him mentioned that she hoped Jon will be ALLOWED to spend more time with the kids soon. What is a changed private man doing tweeting with a Kate Hater? One that tweets hate to Kate all day every day? Claiming Jon doesn’t know is ignorant too, he’s well versed in twitter and it’s not hard to see your followers tweets.
One more thing. When did having a job become a good enough excuse for not spending more time with your kids? This is a man that has been employed for a very short period of time, who spend over a year unemployed or sporadically employed and still only saw his kids 4 days a month.
And truthfully, Marnie, Jon went WEEKS without seeing them at all during that time!
And during the book tour days , when Kate was ‘working’ and away from the kids the haters were like rabid dogs about that. Poor Jon at home, spending all that time parenting and spending time with the kids —- with a Nanny to help out! Even Jon complained about having to do it all while Kate worked!
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There was a tweet yesterday that bothered me a lot. It said ‘Kate knows where to hit the kids so the bruises don’t show’. This wa a tweet by the same person retweeting Kate’s tweets to Jon and grabbing on to any fan tweets. Would Jon not spot the bruises on his children? If kate were guilty of all that the haters accuse and Jon were sitting back and doing nothing that would make them EQUAL partners in abusing their kids. If Jon is such a changed, different, good man, why does he allow people like this to follow him and say horrible things about his children?
Snickers, thanks so much for the welcome. Made me feel good.
Kmom, thanks to you and we have common a whole truckload of shows we won’t watch!
Who is BKIA?
Well that’s just it, Jon IS NOT a good man. I mean he has proven it time and time and time again, ad nauseum with his comments, deeds, and even with his silence while hateful, awful things are being said and/or predicted for and about his OWN CHILDREN. He “acted” the part of good dad for as long as he could, then the real Jon came bursting through. That tweet is disgusting.
Mary……it sure sounds like we think alike about trashy tv shows!
Completely off topic……but I just got GREAT NEWS! My best friend’s son had a biopsy on a lump in his neck recently and it is BENIGN!!!!!
WOO HOO!!!!!!!!! Answered prayers are the bestest!!!!!!
KMom2-awesome news!
Great news, Kmom2. Always love news like that~
Thanks….tears of joy over here!!!!
You will NEVER see her as bashing Jon because you are conditioned to defend, defend ,defend her. You will always justify whatever she does so it really doesn’t matter what the complaint is. We don’t know if he’s the same person or not. You are taking her word for it. If you want to believe everything She says….then go ahead. This is not black and white. You would probably be shocked if you knew the real story behind those two. They both share quilt.
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Kathy, there is no reason for you to be so incredibly rude. I was sharing my opinion, just like everyone else has done. Please show me where I have defended her? I simply shared what I saw in the episode. I do not follow every move that Kate makes (it appears that you do). As I said, I haven’t seen, heard, or read any of Kate’s interviews so going off what I saw on the episode her words were that Jon is not the same. From what I have been shown on J&K+8, he most certainly is not the same person.
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You certainly claim to know a lot about Jon and Kate and it appears that you lean pretty heavily on Jon’s side. That is completely fine. However, it is not ok for you to attack me or others simply because we do not share your same viewpoint.
Kmom2, Thanks for sharing that wonderful news.
Well, I guess I’m not for this site. Seems you have to be involved with following these various twitter accounts which I won’t do, neither Kate’s nor Jon’s. Don’t have the time nor interest. Don’t know the acronyms like BKIA. And some like GeeWhiz managed to read thru comments I didn’t make and say they were “nasty”. I don’t do well with that. So Bye. Have at it. Enjoy yourselves. I don’t even know if Kate or Jon has a facebook site, tho it’s said here that Jon does. Too much for me. Must be something more important to do.
The changes he has made ARE consistent with someone who is trying to make positive changes in their life. Those are huge steps he is making. Those steps aren’t good enough to satisfy you? WOW….what Would you like to see him do? Whatever he does…he will never get an oucne of approval from you. You say there are kate haters…but you are no better then them. You’re a Jon hater! You spew just as much venom towards him. Lets be little more honest here.
Kathy. Who is “you”?
Kathy,
I have never said I hated Jon!! My reason for blogging on the G’s at all was to try and figure out why hate blogs were set up to go after Kate and Kate alone. If you read at Werny Girl. The Blogging Lawyer and a coupe of more sites, the vile nasty things said about Kate and her children were terrible.
I watched the show for entertainemnt and enjoyed it. When Jon and Kate split, it was hard to see, but Jon gave interviews trashing Kate which will effect his children later in life. Kate also has said things in the news about Jon, but gut reaction and impulse gets to anyonbe who is under constant attack.
Jon does not need my approval to do what he wants to do in life. His actions will speak for himself, just like Kates actions will speak for her. Maybe Ellen should not be hooked to the hate sites which really sends a bad message out on how people feel about Jon. Kate is not perfect, neither is Jon. I did ask you why not blog was ever set up to just hate on Jon?? See, we have opinions, but I would not like a blog set up just to hate on either one of them. If Jon is doing well, good for him.
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The changes he has made ARE consistent with someone who is trying to make positive changes in their life. Those are huge steps he is making. Those steps aren’t good enough to satisfy you? WOW….what Would you like to see him do? Whatever he does…he will never get an oucne of approval from you. You say there are kate haters…but you are no better then them. You’re a Jon hater! You spew just as much venom towards him.
You can’t possibly be serious. What “venom” has been spewed toward Jon here? Do the Kate supporters tweet vile comments to Jon 24/7 the way that the Kate haters tweet her? Do they relentlessly attack anyone who dares send an innocuous tweet to Jon? Do they spew homophobic slurs at people whose great crime is knowing and liking Jon? Do they say that Jon is the most evil human being ever to walk the earth? Do they compare him to fathers who have murdered their children?
There is no comparison, period.
Mary,
There are many articles and fun things here to talk about. It’s not just about Kate. Please give the IW blog a chance. I don’t twitter or have facebook either!! :))))
By the way…. “you” is Marnie
I have to disagree, Kathy. I will freely admit I don’t like Jon. Never have. I always took notice of his snarky, hateful remarks about Kate and to the kids. I just have never liked him. Like I said before, I have cringed at the way Kate spoke to him before on shows. But having said that, I have never seen the level of hate thrown at Jon that gets thrown at Kate. EVER. And that poor excuse of a “man” sits back and lets it happen; allows his girlfriend to correspond with hater sites and has never, not once stood up to defend his own children. In fact he’s done quite the opposite in leaking stories to the tabloids, or at the very least, allowng “a source close to Jon” to sell these stories about HIS OWN CHILDREN, all the while crowing about how “private” he is. The steps you talk about are simply the very basics required of human beings in provding for themselves. Call me crazy, but I don’t think you should receive kudos or an “atta boy” for doing what you are required to do, to live!
Kathy,
As long as you are being honest here, where is your compassion for Kate and her children in all of this?? I for one am thankful that Kate was there for her children when Jon dececided to take a year long vacation from them. 🙂 He will have to answer to his children and others for these actions . No way can you ever go back and undo all of this.
And some like GeeWhiz managed to read thru comments I didn’t make and say they were “nasty”. I don’t do well with that ~ Mary
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I was responding to your accusation that nasty comments were made to Kathy. In my opionion you both were the ones being nasty just as you were when you said “some like GeeWhiz”.
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When you post comments on a blog you should expect rebuttals. They are not attacks they are anothers opinion.
Unbelievable, the answer to all of the questions you posed in #164 (excellent observations) is NO.
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Honestly, if I were someone who didn’t care for Kate, I would take a long hard look at the antics of her prolific haters and then run as far as I could in the other direction.
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Look at this Seth Goldstein from Twitter. He wrote afterwards that he was “indifferent” to Kate (just thought the kids were adorable). He couldn’t believe the way the haters came after him after just one tweet. I’d love to ask Becky, Polly, Sharla and their loyal followers if this is behavior they think is admirable?
Kmom2 – benign. Love that word. Thanks for spreading good news here today! 🙂
I’m much more concerned about the mental health of the extremists (on both sides) who twitter/blog and eat, drink and sleep the Gosselin topic 24/7. Yet it’s a topic that does suck us all in to varying degrees, but the nuts need to venture out for from fresh air.
Had the situation been reversed, do you think Jon wouldn’t be thrilled to cash in on his kids? He’s found a way to have people celebrate him because he’s “come to his senses” and repented his wicked TLC ways. Brilliant PR move, he’s convinced many people that he should not be held responsible for the past few years.
If either parent put the kids needs first they would have realized that the most precious gift you can give your kids is the time you spend with them. They could have lived a very nice life had they filmed a few episodes a year and stayed away from the lust for fame and fortune.
In the past, they were a couple and could rely on each other. These days Kate has to support these kids all by herself and I think it terrifies her. My guess is that she is afraid and will do just about anything to amass funds to provide for the children’s future. We’d all be scared in her position. Due to the hate for her, she has developed an icier persona. Who can she trust? Very few people have been constant in her life. Part of it is because of her (to me) abrasive personality, and part of it is the very same concern she had when these kids were born.
I used to be a hater. I still don’t like Kate, but I see Jon as even worse. At least they have one parent who is bringing in enough money to provide for them.
Moi,
While I agree with some of your points, it’s Jon who will have to explain to his children when they are older and will be able to understand what he has done. You don’t have 8 children and then one night you just up and start to bar hop and have several flings and then leave your kids for a year so that you can re-live your twenties. I could almost handle the divorce if Jon had just wanted out from the pressures of the marriage, but both of them were young and both should have to be responsible.
I don’t think Kate is rude, she has a funny snark, almost a dry sense of humor and I have laughed at some of her one liners. People need to either get it or just leave her comments alone. Of course the finacial stuff would be scary for any parent in today’s world. Jon is working because he has to, maybe ordered by a judge to get a job, any job. Jon would have come across much better to the public if he would have kept his mouth closed and honored his contract with TLC until it ended. I bet he has a truck load of regrets in his back pocket now, which will be empty for many years to come as he has to help support his children.
If Kate and the kids were on welfare, the same hate would be there for her which is so sad. No family deserves this, and I hope someday when the kids are older they will call them out for the nasty they have put this family through, starting with the snoop right down the road from their home.
Jon has to pretend that he is happy now. Otherwise how can he justify his incredible moral lapses and his hate for Kate?
I think Ellen is a really nice girl and I wish people would stop picking on her. She has been (by choice and circumstance) treated very unkindly and it’s wrong.
On the other hand, Kate has been scrutinized and scewered to an extent that is beyond frightening. The “haters” need to hate, and she’s their target.
Polly has the unique distinction of being strongly disliked by almost everyone who blogs on this topic.
Moi,
I know nothing about Ellen but when you read that she has hooked up with the hate sites, I would question the nice girl part of this whole situation. Why would a young girl with a whole future ahead of her want the drama of hate in her life. This is her choice, no circumstance about it.
As for Polly, she has to live with her actions also. If I was those kids, when I got older I would sit out front of her house on her street and snap pictures of the crazy blogger and sell them to the tabloids for big money. Heck, if she can make money off of them, they should be able to make money off her. 🙂
I fear that Jon will have trouble being happy because he has wealthy children, a wealthy ex-wife, and little to show for his years on TV. I think he would have an excellent chance to win a lawsuit against the career-killing Hellers, myself. I’m kind of hoping he wins the lottery or at least a lawsuit against them. Until he has as much as his children, I’m afraid he’ll feel like a schmuck.
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I am sure Ellen has good qualities. I am also sure has has some bad ones! Speculation: Radar Online referred to her as a “pretty government worker” for months while they printed nasty stories about Kate and the kids and, most obviously, nice ones about Ellen. It makes me uncomfortable just typing that out because I believe there is more than a “cashing in” angle to that. I feel like there is a self-esteem issue.
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Oh well, the “source close to Jon” has been quiet since the latest round of custody and support hearings. That is a change for the better. At one time Jon blatantly disregarded his legal obligations to his employer. He seems to be respecting his obligation to remain quiet now.
Kathy-what CHANGES has he made? You’re sure that he is being consistent and positive but you can’t say WHAT he is being consistent and positive about exactly.
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Jon hater?. I don’t like Jon Gosselin. I don’t think he deserves kudos for getting a job and keeping a girlfriend for a longer period of time. Don’t confuse that with not being happy or glad those things are happening. His children are being attacked daily on twitter by people he allows to follow him and he tweets with.
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Unbelievable said it best. There is no comparison. The hate towards KG is undeniable. There is no such thing directed at Jon Gosselin and there isn’t even a slight attack on Jon on this thread.
Ann, I disagree that Jon obtaining a large sum of $s would make him feel unschmucked. I think he would fall right back into his habit of wasting and thus not being around for the kids. He went through all those $s from the tabloid stories he gave and the shows he appeared on. I was asking all through that where his $s were going. It sounds nice and I certainly wouldn’t begrudge him. But I think he is one of those who needed to learn the hard way and I don’t think he’s learned yet. I do think there might be opportunities down the road for him if he was to try to rehabilitate his image. It would take awhile.
For me, the breaking point re: Ellen was when she praised the so-called rapper who did that horrible mysoginistic number about Kate and then followed him on Twitter to boot! (this is before she went private). I don’t care what she thinks about Kate (and she might consider the possibility that Jon is not the most objective source re: Kate) that crosses some serious lines.
If Ellen had turned out to be a nice girl who spurned self-promotion and brought stability back into Jon’s life, I’d have rejoiced. Her actions promoting Jon’s “In Touch” interview on her blog with the legend “See me in In Touch Magazine this week”) and a link to the article which includes clearly posed photos of her & Jon. Her web site has a link to request a press kit.
RE: Money-I don’t think there is any question why Kate was the money manager in the family or why the court, according to Jon’s own attorney at the time, put much if not all of Jon’s share of the equitable distribution of the marital estate into escrow to ensure the payment of child support. I agree with Lily. Jon has to learn to manage his own money. There’s no reason why he should be scraping by while Kate & the kids live well, except for the difference in their money management and contract compliance skills.
PeggyP, regarding they rapper video-I had the same breaking point regarding Ellen. I was happy for her and Jon that they found each other. I was happy for the kids that their dad found a local girlfriend, since he seems to choose his location based on where his soul mate lives. But I was very disappointed that Ellen encourages disrespect for Kate in public, since it surely means she encourages it in private. That’s hard on kids.
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I agree Kate seems more competent with money. I think it is great that they all live so well, including those super-expensive self-indulgences like Starbucks coffee and weekly manicures (j/k.) I am happy for the kids that they have the opportunity to go to a great school, live in a quiet area in a beautiful home, and have cool vacations and field trips.
“…Kate has to support these kids all by herself and I think it terrifies her. My guess is that she is afraid and will do just about anything to amass funds to provide for the children’s future.”
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Agree. Fortunately, I have not been in that position but I can imagine the feeling of fear and desperation at the prospect of having to provide for 8 children all by oneself. (Well, mostly all by oneself) That’s why I don’t blame her for doing whatever she needs to do keep the show going including joining Twitter and interacting with fans. Wonder how many of those haters tweeted like crazy in an attempt to get themselves on a show that they say they never watch and don’t support?
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Moi, you used to be a hater? Don’t let them find out who you are. They claim no one goes from hater to supporter and I don’t think they like it much when someone “turns” on them. Ha, I’m just kidding….sort of.
I think Kate is doing a wonderful job raising those beautiful children and all those idiots whith that big greenmonster on their shoulder shoud be ashamed of themselves. Thier the ones who probably couldn’t stand on their own two feet to raise children without a man arond to help them. MORE POWER TO YOU KATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!