By Ann
By now we’ve had a chance to take a look around Kate Gosselin’s new website. One intriguing tab at the top promises Kate’s take on “Kate + Rumors.” As a fan of her show Kate + 8 and a follower of the Gosselin blogs, I am especially interested to see what Kate will have to say about the rumors that have swirled around her in the tabloids or on the Internet.
I was not always a fan. My first exposure to Kate Gosselin was on a marathon weekend in 2008 when TLC showed back-to-back episodes from the first two seasons. I was stuck indoors watching TV, and was immediately drawn in by the dynamics of young twins and younger sextuplets in a local family. I liked seeing places I’d been to here in eastern PA. I thought the children were unbelievably cute. I enjoyed watching the chaos that would follow any family with so many babies. But I was particularly interested in the germaphobe, bossy mom, her easy-going, passive husband, and the
overly-sweet aunt/babysitter. After a day of watching the Gosselins bicker, struggle, and triumph through the chaos, I had enough of Kate’s complaints, Aunt Jodi’s “doormat” quality, and Jon’s tendency to sit back and shrug everything off. I didn’t watch again for more than three months.
It was a rumor that drew me back into the show. My niece met and talked with one of the young helpers for the family. She shared about it at a family picnic and soon we were discussing the Gosselin and our reactions to what we’d seen on the show. “Aunt Jodi was kicked off the show,” one of my sisters said. “Google it.”
I did. Before long I’d researched the whole sordid-and-imaginary background on Jon and Kate Gosselin. She grew up in a trailer park (Nope.) Her parents are poor and her mother has no teeth! (Wrong again.) Kate disowned her whole family over used cribs; she and Jon pretended to be Christian to get money from churches; Kate had an organic chef doing her cooking for her. (No, no, and no.) One particularly horrible story involved Jon refusing to help out two friends of the twins whose mother was dying of cancer. The author of that particular invention was none other than the Internet faker “Pennmommy.” The most disturbing rumor to me was that TLC filmed the toddlers in the nude and that disturbing videos of these children were posted on pedophile sites.
Unfortunately, I believed everything I read on the Internet when I first started following the Gosselins. Luckily, I also followed Gosselins Do Not Need Our Pity (GDNNOP), the forerunner to Imperfect Women, and I watched as Pam, Nancy, Erin, Jennie, and Anya exposed the Pennmommy fraud, putting to rest the rumor that Kate Gosselin eats other people’s “youghurt” when they aren’t looking. It took me months of following the discussions or asking questions before I realized most of the rumors about Kate Gosselin are inventions or exaggerations.
I plan on watching Kate’s site to see which rumors she plans on addressing and putting to rest. In the meantime, maybe readers here can share the rumors about Kate (or Jon!) that they have found ridiculous, funny, or more often, infuriating.
In some ways, IMHO, it’s because the Gosselins seemed like neighbors to many, that they, particularly Kate, have been subjected to vicious small-town gossip. On September 19, 2011, the NY Times had an article, “In Small Towns, Gossip Moves to the Web, and Turns Vicious” about how small-town gossip has literally gone on the web especially on the social media site,Topix. People have literally decided to leave town because their lives have been made hell, including ostracism by friends, neighbors, and family, because of anonymous accusations on the web. It’s even been blamed for a murder-suicide in which a women under attack committed suicide after killing her three children.
OK, I understand how gossip can be hurtful and how it can be mean. However, IMHO, there is a lot more going on in someone’s life and problems are a LOT deeper than just being gossiped about if they kill themselves and take innocent children with them.
Disclaimer: I am NOT saying I don’t believe gossip was a catalyst in the above situation, I just don’t believe it was the sole reason.
Gossip & Rumor. All it takes is one person to say something like, “I think he is up to something, his rent must be due” and anyone who doesn’t like “him”, jumps on it and adds their two cents and before you know it, a full blown love/hate conversation is generated from someone’s stupid little gossipy comment.
Someone says Kate hit someone and ran, then it becomes “fact” almost within minutes of being said. That’s the problem with this anonymous world we live in. ANYBODY can be an expert or professional or just an average jane doe and type what ever they feel and before long, people are all over it like hot coffee and donuts at a staff meeting.
I like the fact that Kate is answering questions on Twitter about some of the rumors.
I remember being so hung up on the personal chef. Even after Kate put in on their old blog that it was craft services, I still wasn’t sure. I didn’t think Julie would put that out there if it wasn’t true, it was such a blatant lie. I know better now.
TC: re your comment at #2. I agree that there has to be severe underlying mental illness in the case of the murder-suicide. However, whoever targeted this woman took the risk that she was emotionally unstable. We’ll never know if this was the straw that broke the camel’s back and pushed a mentally ill woman completely over the edge.
I don’t excuse gossip, but, like it or not, it seems to be a pretty ingrained part of human nature. To me, though, there is a big difference between someone who passes on some minor, interesting tidbit and someone who conducts a relentless campaign of character assassination against someone.
Lily, There was also one episode, IIRR very early in J & K + 8’s run, in which a chef who specialized in recipes for organic food (I think she’d written a book) came to visit the Gosselins to teach Kate new recipes to feed the family. That could have been an element of the myth that Kate had a full time chef.
What’s always amused me about those who are sure that Kate has a massive full-time staff is that they apparently also believe that she can get these people into and out of the property without anyone seeing or photographing them, even during the era where the paps and curiosity seekers camped outside the fence relentlessly.
PeggyP, Julie put it right on her blog that Kate had a private chef. They adored her at GWOP even though her connection to the G family was distant. LOL, I remember Sharla/Peri once accidentally referred to her on a post as “Aunt Julie. At GWOP, all anyone had to do was say “I wonder what Julie thinks about that,” and she popped up.
On her blog, Julie wrote about Kate bringing them some leftover crabcakes from her personal chef. So, Kate did a nice thing and Julie lied and gossiped about it. That irked me for a long time. Julie gave her full support to Pennmommy. (rolling my eyes)
Gossip & Rumor. All it takes is one person to say something like, “She’s not a real nurse she is a glorified Medical assistant who took courses to get a certificate” and anyone who doesn’t like “her”, jumps on it and adds their two cents and before you know it, a full blown love/hate conversation is generated from someone’s stupid little gossipy comment.
Gee – At least I said I was wrong and owned up to it. There is a difference. Your upset because you pretty much said what I used as an example for Gossip.
Tongue slips,(you know those cruel & hateful remarks aimed at tearing down rather than building up) is a useful tool into a person’s psyche. 4-8 tongue slips per hr reveal that the person is self centered, critical, jealous, greedy, mean spirited, bad tempered, and has violent tendencies. This is a cause for alarm and this person should seek to alter their habits.
While studying this subject the Gosselin story immediately popped into my head. It appears that the entire scope of “Tongue Slippers” has focused on Kate as their primary target and no amount of proven facts or rebuttal will sway their course. How on earth someone could or would take a rumor or statement of fact from a rag mag or a hate blog or hate twitterer as fact then propagate it shows me that the one doing it is a “Tongue Slipper” of the highest order. I believe Kate is a good Mother trying to do the best for her children under stressful conditions. I applaud her strength of character.
# 11 – That would be true on both sides of the Gosselin world fence. Just look at what is put out there by “fans” the minute an article or story is published and a “source” is mentioned.
Gee – At least I said I was wrong and owned up to it. There is a difference. Your upset because you pretty much said what I used as an example for Gossip. ~ tcparra
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Upset? Not hardly. Just proving it is you that spread gossip. I stand by my OPINION which I based on Jon’s previous behavior. If you are going to copy my comments from another support site at least include everything. Why did you leave out “I did not listen but Jon did an interview with a Canadian radio station on September 30th. Did anyone listen to it? How the haters can still believe he wants a normal, private life is mind boggling.”
Gee – Do you understand the difference? Probably not. I said something that I read on at least 2 blogs. Pam corrected me on it and the training Kate had taken to get where she is and I acknowledged my error and I SHUT UP from that point about it.
I didn’t copy your comment (at least not word for word) I said what seems to be the common spin the minute a story comes out that mentions the word “source”. Plus, YOU constantly say the same thing EVERY TIME an article comes out. You can try and disguise it as OPINION if said once or twice, but if you constantly say it you are spreading RUMORS and have no real facts. THAT would be spreading Gossip.
Plus, wasn’t it mentioned that the radio interview story was from a couple years ago?
TC so are you saying you have a PHD in tongueslippers?
I prefer my fuzzy bunny slippers!
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What is it with those that have the most hateful tongues being the most thinned skinned? I love tougueslippers. LOL.
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Tongue slips is the course subject matter this week about child tongue slips but it applies to any age. Speech should always be tempered with truth & kindness. If not it actually defines the character of the person who is continually derisive about any and all subjects.
tc you often chastise posters here about reading comprehension. Either you misunderstood #11, didn’t comprehend, or chose to bait & switch deliberately. It most definitely would not apply to both sides of the Gosselin fence since Kate is the target of the lies & hatred. Comments about “the sources” are just that, comments.
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The video of Jon filming the dogs being taken away in front of the children and stating that their mother did not want them anymore, upset me more than anything. Who would do such a thing to their children? I could not stand him after that. The SOB should have got a house and took the dogs himself instead of messing around with women and living in a high price apartment. I wonder how much money he went through during his sowing his wild oats period?
Jon’s MO has been to make Kate look as bad as possible, and/or hurt Kate as much as possible. If these actions hurt his children also, he obviously doesn’t mind otherwise he wouldn’t have filmed the dogs being taken away like he did. He’s never grown up and loved his children more than he hates Kate.
Lindsey, I understood what you typed. It felt as if I was reading something put out there with the intention of misleading people into thinking they were reading about some medical malady called “Tongue Slippers”.
“chose to bait & switch deliberately” Where did you comprehend that I did that in my comments? I said both sides of the fence because I was talking about both people involved and how quickly the hate and rumors and gossip gets out of hand. In fact, when a “story” comes out (ie: Huff piece) and it is not favorable, it only takes minutes for a FAN to say that any mention of “source” in the story can ONLY be one person, regardless of the content of the story.
# 22, just how is Jon hurting Kate? Just a simple description of one or two cases of him hell bent on “hurting” Kate. Please try and avoid the couch video’s where you hear one thing and he says another.
Besides all the garbage that goes on during messy divorces, how is he hurting Kate and the kids?
The filming of the dogs being taken away. I don’t remember there being any video footage of him giving them up. Remember why he did? Something about not be cared for when he wasn’t at the house.
PLUS: This was a ROL exclusive in 2009! So in 2009 people liked what ROL reported, today Not so much. Why not google, Kate refuses water to kids, or Kate spanks kids and see what pops up? My point there, it’s old garbage and not relevant any longer.
There is no comparison in your BASHING Kate with known lies and my opinion of Jon based on his proven behavior. Also, you only acknowledged your error after being called on it numerous times. You continued to bash Kate and her ability as a nurse. You also continuously said “I made things up in my mind” when discussing an article you had not seen. Do you understand the difference?
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I know you didn’t copy my comment word for word. Like I previously said, you left out why I thought Jon was up to something AGAIN. It has been proven that Jon was paid for articles. It is my right to think he continues that behavior especially since he did a radio interview on September 30th despite continuing to profess he wants a normal private life. IMO, he only says this to keep the haters on his side because his actions PROVE otherwise.
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Your schooling about gossip is a joke considering the hate site you post at has been GOSSIPING about Kate for years. If you don’t like my opinions simply pass them up.
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Plus, wasn’t it mentioned that the radio interview story was from a couple years ago? ~ tcparra
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WRONG. I had also posted an article which I deleted after I was told it was from October 2009. In case you missed my reply here it is: “Oops, didn’t look at the date. Thanks Deborah, I deleted my comment.”
Lindsey, comment #22 is a perfect example of Tongue slippers on the other “side”.
GeeWhiz…all one has to do is look at Jon’s Twitter to see that he was on Toronto Radio KISS – last Friday a.m.! Nothing made up…they’d been promoting it on Jon’s page & thanked him for the laughs.
HB – Unfortunately there are people who won’t do research but instead accuse others of gossiping or making things up in their mind.
GeeWhiz said…#23, It is my right to think he continues that behavior
especially since he did a radio interview on September 30th despite
continuing to profess he wants a normal private life.
Please GeeWhiz could I have a link to that announcement.
Surely you must have proof of your statement?
Well I’m sure that the dogs being taken away in front of the kids is still relevant to the KIDS, tc. There was video of it…trust me.He did it in front of the kids to get back at Kate. It was wrong and if Kate had done that too it still would be wrong. I’m sorry but you like to argue just for the sake of stirring things up.You enjoy it too I’m sure.
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#27 in ref to #22 Wrong again tc. Comments on proven facts, not made up lies or rumor mongering. You are being just a tad too defensive about the tongue slips and yes I give you this you are a world class champion at bait & switch.
I’m completely and evermore finished with you. Goodbye!
TC, my life is not so empty and pitiful that I need to make up lies on an internet blog about ANYTHING or ANYONE to feel fulfilled. I do not have to prove anything to you, or for you.
I’ve actually seen very little in rumors about Jon as opposed to what he has actually done or said such as the whole debacle during DTWS where, after professing support for Kate, he gets a new lawyer, files a custody action accusing Kate of being an absentee mother, and, after the suit has clearly messed with Kate’s head, fires the attorney & tries to claim that the attorney filed the suit without his consent (after the suit had been public record for some time).
GeeWhiz said…#23, It is my right to think he continues that behavior
especially since he did a radio interview on September 30th despite
continuing to profess he wants a normal private life.
Please GeeWhiz could I have a link to that announcement.
Surely you must have proof of your statement? ~ Patsy
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Joy – Thanks for posting the tweet in your comment #32.
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Patsy – There is your proof he did the radio interview. If you want to watch the homemade video he sold to Rumorfix and hear about his normal private life you’ll have to google it yourself. I’m tired of you naysayers coming here and demanding proof. Do the work yourself.
Gee- Why don’t you look over my comments again? I didn’t BASH Kate in ANY of my comments. I said she was a glorified Med assistant, Pam corrected me and I accepted it. I wasn’t “called” on it many times. I have questioned some things she has done, and I have asked why you and others were so bent on BASHING Jon to support Kate. I didn’t bash kate to support Jon.
I don’t know the content of his radio interview, and I really don’t care.
I’m not trying to school you on anything. You know when you are gossiping. I do NOT keep saying the same thing over and over to drive home a certain feeling or point. When you shred Jon, I don’t start shredding Kate to offset your hate. I ask what makes you feel he did the “deed”.
My gosh! I didnt say he didnt do the interview & I didnt say you made it up. I only said wasn’t the radio interview from a couple years ago. You told me I was wrong and I didn’t disagree, did I? You want me to say you were right, OK, you were right. He did an interview on 9/30.
TC said
The filming of the dogs being taken away. I don’t remember there being any video footage of him giving them up. Remember why he did? Something about not be cared for when he wasn’t at the house.
PLUS: This was a ROL exclusive in 2009!
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Excuse me, but in one sentence you don’t remember there is a video and in another you state it was a ROL exclusive. What is your problem? Do you remember or do you not remember? The video was on ROL, so I am assuming you remember. Maybe you should remember to re-read your posts before posting.
Again with the “private life” nonsense? Get over it. Just because he does a few interviews, tweets, whatever, that doesn’t mean he is living large and searching for his brass ring. MAYBE, just MAYBE things are tight for him too and he is getting some compensation. Does he “bash” kate or say mean things about his kids? I don’t know because I haven’t heard them. That also doesn’t mean I can just assume what he said or decide that he is trying to “hurt” kate.
“There was video, trust me.” You will understand if I don’t believe you. I did a little research and found no link or video, even on ROL. I found a lot of articles and why he said he did it. But no video.
# 34, no you don’t have to prove anything. It just makes ALL of your comments nonsense & really not very credible, IMO. I admit when I am wrong, I’m not just making up things and saying “kate is trying to hurt Jon again, it’s her MO”.
41, there was a video on ROL. I saw it and it pissed me off bigtime. Trust me
Oh I love talking about the dogs.
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FACTS
Shown on Jon&Kate Plus 8
Jon was to train the dogs. They were jumping on the kids. Kate is nagging that he isn’t training dogs like he said he was.
Shown on ROL
Jon had dogs taken away because Kate made him. Coincidently the week after ROL reported that his elderly mother was taken away in an ambulance after a fall in the driveway.
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TOTAL CONJECTURE ON MY PART
The dogs jumped up on his mother and hurt her.
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RUMOR
Repeating my total conjecture as the truth.
There was video and it was shown on one of Jon’s favorite shows to appear on nearly every day to blast his ex wife.
Below is the link to the video.
http://youtu.be/yT1nfxFSSko
The video was shown on ROL but was later pulled and photos were substituted because ROL apparently did not have the copyright to use the video but it was there when the article first came out.
Again with the “private life” nonsense? Get over it.~TCparra
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Nah, I don’t want to get over it. Jon’s attacks were cruel and hurtful. Supposedly, he did it all and wanted the show stopped for the privacy of his kids. The guy even put towels on their heads. What he did and is doing isn’t something that should be easily excused. Jon’s all about what Jon wants, not what is good for his kids.
Just an FYI, please don’t ask me what Jon and/or Ellen has done/is doing to Kate. That would prob be the fifth time we’ve discussed that.
“Excuse me, but in one sentence you don’t remember there is a video and in another you state it was a ROL exclusive. What is your problem? Do you remember or do you not remember? The video was on ROL, so I am assuming you remember. Maybe you should remember to re-read your posts before posting.”
MY problem is playing patty cake with people who like to go in circles. I said it was an ROL exclusive, based on Google search. I never saw any video because I didnt go to ROL.
HOWEVER, that being said; there is a bunch of BS being spread by a fan. I went to ROL and looked at the “Jon spends last moments with Shoka & nala” article. THERE IS NO VIDEO OF JON getting rid of the dogs, just still photos PLUS there are NO CHILDREN in any of the pictures. They are in a cage and in the back of a truck.
So, there ya go. A lie told by a Fan and then spread like butter by more fans as truth and in attempt to make Jon look bad.
Let me clarify before #40 calls us liars again. Only the part where Jon was taking the dogs back was shown on ROL but the commentary by the entertainment show was edited out of ROL’s video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1nfxFSSko
Here you go TC, and I am another who will not research for you. Learn how to google better.
and I watched as Pam, Nancy, Erin, Jennie, and Anya exposed the Pennmommy fraud, putting to rest the rumor that Kate Gosselin eats other people’s “youghurt” when they aren’t looking.
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LOL, Good times, good times.
I love the pic up top.
Great post Ann.
Lily agree with ALL of your comment 100% especially this part:” Just an FYI, please don’t ask me what Jon and/or Ellen has done/is doing to Kate. That would prob be the fifth time we’ve discussed that.”
No more beating the dead horse please. It’s all been said many times over and over.
I was horrified for those children when I saw the towels thrown over their heads. To make a mockery of your children to the public like that is inexcusable.
Sorry Joy, did not see your link until after I posted mine.
OK, I watched the video. That was a lot of jumpy editing. You know what, so what. We don’t know what he told the kids and they didn’t appear to be loosing it or crying. That was from 2009 right? I’m sure they have recovered by now.
No problem SOR. We both just wanted to make sure there was no doubt it existed. lol
Why don’t you stop trying to tell me how to google? If you are going to accuse someone, or reference a moment in time from 2 years ago, YOU should provide the source or link or “proof” to support it. Otherwise it may be assumed to be rumor or gossip.
I shouldn’t have to research something brought up by someone. Just as I should provide a backup if I am making accusations.
Yeh Joy, I have a problem with someone calling me a liar.
Joy, a mockery of his children? Was this the time he was hiding their faces from the Paps? How is he making a mockery by doing that?
OK, you all have proved how bad of a person Jon was in 2009. Good for you. Now can we come back to the present? Jon is working, the kids look happy and Kate is updating her web page and tweeting. How do we move forward?
TC, I posted what infuriated me as Ann suggested we do and if you have a problem with my post or that I needed to back it up with proof, that is your problem, not mine.
I suggest you move forward and quit haggling other posters about their thoughts.
Thank you
TCparra:
October 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Again with the “private life” nonsense? Get over it. Just because he does a few interviews, tweets, whatever, that doesn’t mean he is living large and searching for his brass ring. MAYBE, just MAYBE things are tight for him too and he is getting some compensation. Does he “bash” kate or say mean things about his kids? I don’t know because I haven’t heard them. That also doesn’t mean I can just assume what he said or decide that he is trying to “hurt” kate.
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Do you get that Jon is the one who repeatedly claims he wants a private normal life? What about that confuses you?
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He could very well be tight on funds and every other thing you said, but he ALSO claims to not miss the ‘spotlight’ and leads a normal and private life. His interviews contradict his words.
I found a lot of articles and why he said he did it. But no video.
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Are you for real? You researched enough to find comments as to why he did the video but you had the gall to question people here about the existence of the video?
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Just out of curiousity, why do you think Jon video taped this? What was the purpose? And why was it made public?
And Marnie, she has the gall to post that I should have put up a link for her. Yikes
Tc, there really is no debating/reasoning with you. I give up because you love all this. To Quote The Office’s Dwight Shrute “I’m shunning you.” You’re not worth the effort.
Sorry mods if I’ve crossed a line. My son is long grown up and I’m done dealing with childish behavior.
#58 That would require “common sense” and you’ve shown by even asking the question as to why it would be a mockery just proves that you are lacking “common sense” and it is my opinion and frankly I don’t care whether you like it or not. I’m with #34 & #64 and frankly it is my humble opinion that you have made a “mockery” of any Gosselin thread on IW and it has grown to be quite tiresome and repetitive. I’m sure this will be deleted but at least my voice will be heard by a few.
Why don’t you stop trying to tell me how to google? If you are going to accuse someone, or reference a moment in time from 2 years ago, YOU should provide the source or link or “proof” to support it. Otherwise it may be assumed to be rumor or gossip.
I shouldn’t have to research something brought up by someone. Just as I should provide a backup if I am making accusations.
Why don’t you stop calling people liars because you are too lazy to Google?
Joy, I agree this has all gotten “tiresome and repetitive”, but it takes two to tangle.
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We aren’t going to not post TCparra’s posts just because her opinions are at odds with the majority here. She is held to the same standards all posters are to keep her posts respectful, etc. She is not the only one who has ignored our repeated requests to avoid jibes at other posters and discussing other boards. So short of removing a bunch of comments, this is where we are at.
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Just to show you it is possible to post to this thread and not contribute to the back and forth that doesn’t get us anywhere, please see Lily’s posts #8, #47 and #51. Only one responded directly to TC and then she let it go.
Why don’t you stop calling people liars because you are too lazy to Google?
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YES!!!!
And Joy, with due respect to you because I do appreciate your passion, the term “mockery” in regards to this thread is way over the top, IMO.
The discussion of using Google is over, folks. O V E R. Everyone has made their point.
For that I sincerely apologize Anya and to the rest of the IW ladies. 🙁
Let’s see………………..
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Kate is not a real nurse – proven otherwise
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Jon’s employer wouldn’t release confidential info regarding his firing – proven otherwise
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Video of dog’s leaving doesn’t exist – proven otherwise
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Jon did a radio interview in 2009 not recently – proven otherwise
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all proven after being called liars with simple google searches
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do you ever reflect or give pause about what other things hate sites are vomiting and if you should so blindly keep believing it, how about maybe not jumping to the “you’re lying” conclusion so quickly? The whole “I didn’t see it” arguement is rather lame.
sorry Anya, I posted before your post came up!
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over and out
No need to apologize, Joy. But thank you.
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For anyone who would like to get back on track, here is the final line of Ann’s piece:
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“In the meantime, maybe readers here can share the rumors about Kate (or Jon!) that they have found ridiculous, funny, or more often, infuriating.” .
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I’m trying to think of a funny one because I think this thread could use it. One that comes to mind isn’t a rumor, but I stil chuckle at how the haters went haywire over Kate using a Brita water filter pitcher when she made soup. That reaction tells me everything I need to know about how crazy some of those folks are!
To debate a subject you need to take the time and effort to arm yourself with FACTS. The ladies of IW are honest and have the facts. I suggest the naysayers read from the beginning of this blog as well as their previous blog Gosselins Do Not Need Our Pity. It may take you months but you will find they have addressed so many rumors and lies about the Gosselins. And for the record that is exactly what I did before I ever commented on a Gosselin blog.
Thanks, GeeWhiz. That is kind of you to write!
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I thought of another rumor related to the Gosselins – Jodi & Kevin paid off their mortgage with money from their interview with Radar. Kate appeared to confirm that in a tweet the other day and also said they went on a big vacation. She referred to it as “blood money.” Still makes me sad to think of what they did.
I thought the Kate smoking gate complete with video was silly.
GeeWhiz I did the same thing too _ I stopped playing the “show me game” a long time ago but every once in a while I get sucked in. Doesn’t matter what you show – they just move on to the next rumor.
I also thought the lesbians-wear-white-skirts rumor was very silly too! LOL
Anya…what makes me cringe were those pics of Jodi & Kevin visiting Jon pre-divorce when they switched living in ‘the’ new home! Or…the pics of Kevin & Jon barhopping…& Kevin gloating at Radar’s ‘breaking news’.
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This was the sad thing that comes to mind for me in the whole G’s blogging world, was when Jon lied to Kevin and Jodi and they went on TV and told lies about Kate and then Jon turned on them and said the kids enjoyed filming.. Never have really understood why Jon did that. Was that about the time he was messing with the school teacher??
Smoking gate was hysterical and to think that one of their own (anti fan) was kind enough to prove that rumor false. I didn’t buy into it in the first place but it was nice to see antifan lay that one to rest.
You’re welcome Anya. I would also like to thank all of the IW ladies for the time and effort spent to set the record straight.
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I was infuriated when I saw a picture of Kate that was photoshopped (IIRC by JibberJabbers) to remove her underwear. I believe that was the sickest thing I have seen done to Kate.
One of the stupidest things I have ever seen the haters say is that Kate intentionally planned a high order multiple birth just to score a reality show and become famous. This rumour came about because the haters took and ran with some quote Kate said about how she always wanted to have multiples or something and that she had sex while on fertility drugs with overstimulated ovaries. Blah, blah, whatever. It is so ridiculous I thought they were joking at first. Sadly, they were not.
#83 Gee Whiz that one is new for me and I’m so glad that I never saw it. That is absolutely disgusting to think anyone would do such a thing.
tcparra – Many of us viewed the video when it was posted on ROL. They have removed it, however in the article in below link it states “The Insider has obtained revealing footage of Jon Gosslin’s fatherhood skills in action. In the video, Gosselin returns to the house he shared with Kate to pick up the family dogs, Shoka and Nala. As he loads them into his truck, he yells out to the kids, “Say bye to your pups!”
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In the ROL video after Jon yells to the kids it showed them opening the door and saying something but they refused to come out.
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http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/blogs/2009/tv-news/jon-gosselin-for-the-dogs/
I forgot the photoshopped “missing panties” photo. Awful.
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Silly rumor: Kate calls paps. INF’s Jessica denied it- she wouldn’t deny it for Jon and we were given the evidence!
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Most infuriating rumor IMO: The kids were expelled from school. Not one hater/nonfan has acknowledged that was a lie when faced with the fact that all 8 kids were attending the same school last spring. Grrrr.
Gosh…there were so many- remember the story that the Gosselins were not allowed to trick or treat? I would have no problem if that were true, but when they were clearly seen trick or treating on the show, the rumor morphed into “Kate slept through the kids trick-or-treating” then to “Kate was sleeping because she drinks.” For that matter,there are several versions of “Kate drinks boxed wine from a Starbucks cup.”
Don’t forget the rotten lunch story. IMO, this week’s news from a “close source” is written exactly the same way as that lunch story was written.. No suprise since it’s probably from the same source.
Al Walentis, the ex Reading Newspaper reporter who hung out with the paps to report for US magazine also stated Kate never called the paps but Jon did.
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Another infuriating one is Lillian Glass, the so called body language expert, giving her opinion of Kate and the kids from a few still pictures. Also when reviewing the interview with Natalie Morales she said Kate did not shed any tears when you could see them on her face. I posted this on her blog and instead of publishing my comment she sent me an email saying she was highly educated and until I was as educated as she was I had no right to question her. She also posted a video from JibberJabbers that supposedly showed Kate had an earpiece on during that interview and that someone from TLC was feeding her answers to Natalie’s questions.
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I recently read comments from her sight and a few people were telling her how wrong it was that she posted the IP and email address of someone that did not agree with her. She is so unprofessional.
Ann, lol, the Starbucks cup. Funny, they never talk about Jon when he’s been shown to be excessive, even on the show.
Adele, The smoking one was weird. I couldn’t believe someone watched closely enough to catch that ripple of the awning. It did look like she had just blown smoke, lol.
Teresa E. I agree, that Kate masterminded a plan to intentionally have HOMs is the most stupid.
I really liked that Kate spoke out on twitter about how Not only did Jodi & Kevin pay off their house but bought another one and went on vacation with the money they made from selling her family out.
That was something we didn’t know. Well we were all sure about paying their house off with it but not the rest.
Does anyone really think she would say something like that so publicly if it wasn’t true ?
Another sad moment was Kevin and Jodi testifying at the child labor hearings and not only lying about what took place on the show but Kevin stating the kids were phsycologically damaged.
… and Jodi whispering to Kevin to say she was cheating with Steve. That was the lowest.
How about the tabloids that said Kate paid $7000.00 for the hair extensions her hairdresser did for FREE for People magazine.
That story had the haters jumping for joy for months and they still repeat it even though they know it isn’t true.
Or one of the most dangerous rumors was that Kate had $100,000 in cash at the house. A house with a woman and eight children and 100K in cash.
#87 Ann said:”Most infuriating rumor IMO: The kids were expelled from school. Not one hater/nonfan has acknowledged that was a lie when faced with the fact that all 8 kids were attending the same school last spring. Grrrr.”
By far that is IMO the one of the most disgusting and vile things that Jon has ever done. His intention was to hurt Kate but he is so blinded by his hate that he doesn’t even realize that the ones he hurt the most were his children. It’s clear that Kate was correct in saying they were taken out for other reasons but Jon came back and kept trying to say Kate was lying. There is nothing in my opinion he can ever do to make up for such a horrible thing he has done to his own children. He hurt the kids far more than he could hurt Kate although I’m betting she is beyond disgusted over his words and actions. What a shame for his own children’s sake that when it was clear that the kids were never expelled and that he was lying he never has been man enough to admit his lies to the public and that blemish however incorrect it was will never be removed from the minds of the public including the families and the children that these two Gosselin kids go to school with. It is beyond disgusting that any father could ever do that to his own precious children who are completely innocent.
#95 CoCo Puff they are also now convinced that Kate pays $2,000 for the haircut that is given to her when she flies to New York. Never mind that Jason, himself has denied that, the rumor still continues on. Kate said she pays what it would cost for anyone of us at our neighborhood stylist. They can never believe that Jason actually like Kate and considers her his friend. lol
Wow Marie..I hadn’t heard that one..
I’m a little confused here because it was ROL that had an exclusive that Jon Gosselin is the one that started the rumor about Kate and Steve. ROL reported this:”Jon Gosselin intentionally started the rumors that his now-estranged wife was having an affair with their bodyguard Steve Neild, a well-placed insider has told RadarOnline.com.”
“Jon wanted a divorce and he also wanted to throw attention away from himself, so he spread that rumor,” the source said. “Jon doesn’t like Steve so he didn’t care about the repercussions.”
Now that rumor has been change to Steve is living in the basement of the Gosselin home. lol
Joy –
How do they justify the ‘flying to New York’ when the woman keeps getting speeding tickets driving back? Oh, wait, she is driving so fast that she practically flys?
Adele –
That hit the gossip blogs around the same time as Kate was on the talk show rounds talking about how Jon had drained the bank account of $160K. It really was one of the most horrifying rumors.
One rumor that immediately pops into my mind that I know without a doubt is completely false was the one about moldy sandwiches in the kids lunch boxes. I laughed at that one.
Lets bring up #25 about Kate denying the children water. That has been one of the most aggravating and repeated rumors. Let’s discuss what really happened. The Gosselins family was appearing on Good Morning American if I remember right. Kate was sitting with the children all around her waiting for the interview to start. There was less than 10 seconds before the cameras were going to roll. One of the kids, I believe it was Mady asked for a drink of water and Kate said no and took a drink. If you want to be picky yes Kate said no but the fact that there was less than 10 seconds before the cameras were to roll has been left out. That isn’t a long time and as parents of more than one child anyone of us knows that if you start something the rest of the kids are going to all say they want water too. You can blast Kate all you want but I would have done the same thing if I were in her shoes. With so little time left handing the bottle of water down to one child would have turned into a “I want” session and of course there wasn’t enough time for one child let alone all the children to have a drink of water which is what would have happened if Kate has passed the water down. Why this little incident has been made into such a big deal I’ll never understand but it doesn’t take much does it to set the anti fans off. The spanking issue I refuse to go into because that would be an endless argument and it’s been discussed over and over again to the point that any more discussion would be pointless. We all as parents have our own point of view when it comes to corporal punishment and that argument has no winners or losers. As a parent nobody has a right to tell me how to discipline my children and for the outside world it is none of their business.
stxmom anyone that would of believed that story definitely has something wrong with them. This is where common sense comes into play and it appears there is an awful lot of anti fans who fall short in that area. lol
#101 Marie lol
The haters are obsessed about Kate’s Boobs ~ if they are hers or not~ why are they enlarging pictures and looking at ANYONE’S boobs with a magnifying glass???
BTW I don’t even wanna look at my own boobs through a magnifying glass why would I look at someone elses?
Not saying mine are shabby or anything they just aren’t as perky as they once were but either am I~ so its OK.
And since we are on the subject of boobs & this is breast cancer month ~ feel those boobs and get your yearly mammograms : )
CoCoPuff…..#108…TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!
Latest rumor……Shoka is not the same dog that left! LOL LOL One person spent over a hour comparing DOG PICTURES and thinks she sees enough of a difference to claim the “Shoka” now is not the same “Shoka” that left! Sheesh!
Dammed if she does and dammed if she doesn’t! HI, yes it’s the outsider! 🙂 I see a group of people termed Haters, who yell for Kate to be a real mum/mom. She is very real with her blog, as real as any mum would be with a family blog, but they still slam her! proves to me it’s not about her show, or about her but about them!
They claim not to follow her (so they’ve tweeted) yet they know her every move. In fact they ‘chat’ to each other on another site that I saw yesterday and teach each other how to use ‘google reader’ for Kate’s Site so she doesn’t earn hits from their visit!, they check with each other that they’ve ‘recorded’ things kate has tweeted. Even to keeping a written list of tweets from kate claiming to mention ‘gifts’ sent to her so they can tell the TAX MAN!
They also chat about keeping it up and she’ll get off twitter soon! All this should be exposed by those celeb mags, unless of course they are behind some of it!!!
There are clubs out there ie CWA, YMCA, bingo, they should join and get off twitter and it is they who should go to tweet rehab because it’s driving them nuts!
one even slips up and mentions things they should not know, leading me to believe they are hidden traitors in Kate’s camp.
One hater in Australia (having read a small history of her tweets) didn’t get the attention from Kate she sought on twitter and so desperately yearning, she was prayed upon by the usual ones and was taken to the dark side, even rude enough to tweet about me, someone she knows nothing about, daring to suggest abuse in my home! daring and stupid because I’m monitored by Welfare, as a registered long term fostercarer!
There is nothing Kate can do that will change the behaviour of this group.
The big win will be when the kids are teens and speak out about their organised, at times tuff, but awesome Mother that they love very much. Even then, this group will just say she’s brain washed them (as if any teenager is ever successfully brainwashed LOL)
We all cringe when another parent is in action, then we are thankful that we are not seen! Those who believe they are infallible, perfect parents have already shown that they are not by that thought pattern alone, let alone their hate tweets.
Just my late night babble 🙂 Its 11.20pm here so forgive me if this doesn’t make sense. GOODNIGHT.
Cant the Haters see how CRAZY they are?
They are staring at pictures of someone elses dog ~
doing side by side comparisons.
And I am sure they took out their trusty hater magnifying glasses as well as their all telling crystal ball ~LMAO!
Mumbear, I think you’ve found your new home! I can safely say that almost all of us agree with everything you’ve written.
Kmom2 at #112. I wish you were kidding but I’ve learned that nothing is too outrageous for them to be doing. My parents used to breed cocker spaniels (when they were still a sporting breed and not the current yappy lap dogs) and, even after that ended, we had a lot of dogs, who we got as puppies, over the years. Shoka and Nala were not adults when Jon returned them to their breeder. Especially among the large breeds, adult dogs can look considerably different as pups than they do as adults. My brother had an Old English Sheepdog for many years. As puppies, they are so soft and fluffy you find yourself looking for the windup key in their back because they look like high-quality stuffed mechanical toys, they’re so adorable. The adult coat is longer and much coarser. However, even if the hater did know that, why in the world would they care and what would they think they were proving? It’s not something that would be all that secret, even in the haters’ bizarro imaginary world. The breeder would certainly know if the dog that was returned to the Gosselin kids wasn’t Shoka.
What gets me is that they automatically put the worst possible construction on Kate’s conduct no matter how trivial and they will unquestioningly accept the most bizarre lies about her but Jon gets a pass on everything, no matter how bad and no matter how well documented. They even manage to put an evil, bad mothering spin on Kate’s efforts to feed her children a healthy diet and develop healthy eating habits in them. These are children whose paternal grandfather died at a relatively young age of coronary artery disease. It’s not known yet if he passed that on to Jon. Developing healthy eating habits puts them in a much better position to be healthy as adults whatever their family medical history.
I think the kids made it very clear in the final show how they positively they feel about the filming and how much they’ll miss the travel that TLC enabled and the TLC crew that filmed them(I’m sure haters dismissed this as brainwashing). They are very articulate children, especially Cara & Mady. Their love for their mother is also clear as is the fact that Kate not only maintains contact for them with Jon’s aunt & uncle but made it clear to Cara & Mady in their visit with the aunt & uncle that it was no big deal to bring up their dad AND Ellen in Kate’s presence.
#107 – maybe because Kate keeps trying to convince everybody they are real? She was “flat” in the early years of the show, then she ballooned up pretty quick in the last few years. No “good Bra” will add that much cleavage without some help. IMO.
“Your life on this planet is limited, don’t waste it living someone else’s life” SO TRUE for fans and non fans.
Boob Gate again. lol lol
Even more foolish is anyone who spends more than a minute or two talking about someone they don’t like because the majority of the population just ignores and avoids those they don’t like. Some of these people spend days, weeks, months and even years talking about how much they dislike a person which in my humble opinion shows they lack any common sense.
Common sense? Then by your definition, the fans have no common sense either. Imagine that, spending more than a minute or two hating on someone they don’t know equals “no common sense”. I guess that works both ways.
Plus, there is no “gate” here, a simple reply to someone pointing out how non fans obsess over something. If you want to twist it and provide evidence and links to web sites or blogs that dis-spell the rumors, go for it. I could care less either way, again it was a simple comment.
Wrong again as typical. Don’t hate anyone. Maybe disappointed in some people but hate has never been part of the make up of the majority of fans and definitely not me. Epic fail. lol Common sense shines here in all it’s magnificent beauty and splendor.
Mumbear, nice to see you posting. I have enjoyed reading you on Twitter. Hope to see more of you.
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TC and others. I too believe it does “work both ways”, but we have to acknowledge that there are degrees. I don’t think anyone who posts at IW truly hates anyone. I don’t believe anyone *here* is spending hours upon hours writing hateful, sometimes obscene blog posts and tweets directed at a semi-celebrity they have never met. Perhaps we do spend too much time discussing the worst behavior, but we also have multiple other categories where we discuss many other issues of more significance. The same goes for Sage’s – you can see friendships have been formed there and they discuss what is going on in their lives. I don’t agree with all the fan behavior I have seen on blogs and Twitter, but there is just no comparison to the hate campaign against Kate waged by a relatively small group of rather sad women (and a couple of men!)
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That said, back to the original quote – yes, our time is limited. Let’s use it to engage respectively with each other and build each other up. If you see something you don’t care for, just move along and look for something positive. It’s there if you look for it.
My funniest moment was watching Stephanie’s mom talk about her daughters sexcapade with Jon. I had a good laugh over her interviews. I as a mother could not imagine talking about my daughters sex life for the whole world to see.
What’s so silly about “Watergate” is just before, Kate had asked that they bring drinks for the children. Drinks were on the way, right after her segment. Sorry kids, if I’m talking “live” mommy gets the drink of water.
I am missing the old Princess boards. They were hysterical. Does anyone recall the “Kate stole Asian eggs” rumor on GWOP. LOL.
Just look at the comments about Amanda Knox, after any article. There are some who STRONGLY believe that she is guilty. Even after a ton of evidence was shown to be tainted and the prosecutor was shown to be guilty of his own dirty deeds. The point, it doesn’t matter how strongly you feel that Kate is the role model for hard working mothers who do it all themselves or you despise her or somewhere in the middle, there will never be a gathering of the minds and everyone agrees one way or the other.
Unfortunately, along the way you will have the fans and non fans who are just nuts and say stupid things. Wish or threaten death or mock how they are dressed or look. Make fun of the job they have or try to get. Blogs are formed to trash or praise both parties and have their take on how everything that happens in the press happens and who the source behind it is. Again, this works both ways.
Blogs & comments are just as guilty of sensationalizing an issue as the main stream media is. How many times are we bombarded with headlines that say “allegedly” or “unnamed sources say” or a “friend says” this or that. Then when you read or watch the topic being discussed, you realize that there is no real meat or its just a bunch of gossip thrown together.
As far as Kate’s boobs are concerned whether she had them done or not doesn’t matter to me and it’s definitely what I look at or think about when I see any woman. This subject happened to come up the other day while I was talking to a good friend who likes Kate. Her mother is one of the country’s top plastic surgeons and she asked her mom to look at some of Kate’s photos and videos from the early years up to today. My good friend wanted her mom’s professional opinion on whether Kate has had them enhanced or not and since a big majority of her mother’s practice in today’s society is a large part of her business. She said her mom reviewed the photos and videos and in her professional opinion Kate has not had her boobs “enhanced or lifted”. She said that a well fitted bra can make a big difference in how a woman’s breasts appear. She also noticed that Kate’s style of dress has changed from the early years to her style today. She said Kate wore loose fitting clothes in the earlier years and she now wearing more fitted to the body clothing which gives a woman her “curves” and enhances the figure more. This she said this has also changed Kate’s appearance especially her boobs. I’m just giving you her professional opinion. In her opinion the combination of better fitting clothes and a better fitting bra has made a significant appearance change in that particular area of Kate’s body and Kate hasn’t had anything done surgically. My friends mom didn’t even know who Kate was until her daughter brought her up.
As I said it doesn’t matter to me one way or another and I’ve got a number of my younger friends and family members who has had their breasts enlarged and my opinion is if it makes them feel better about themselves I support their decision. It’s not something for me but I certainly don’t care if someone else wants it. It’s their business and their lives. I’m just going to take my good friends mom’s opinion since she is far more an expert on plastic surgery. If someone else think she has that’s their right but I emphatically don’t think that anyone HAS to reveal whether or not they have had something done to their body. It’s nobody’s business.
As a side note when my friend told her mom that there are people out there that will take photos and use a magnifying glass to examine a woman’s breast over a period of time, she apparently started laughing hysterically because she said that is one of the craziest things she has ever heard of. lol
Oh Lily I miss the princess boards too. It was wickedly funny. I think some of the misspellings they would highlight are classics in crazy comments. I will often check that site when there is lunacy anywhere in the world wide internets.
Joy-Excellent post at #126. One thing that people who are obsessed with finding evidence that Kate has had breast implants & is trying to conceal it refuse to take into account is that this is a woman who had major plastic/reconstructive surgery, an abdominoplasty, on national television after showing her post-sextuplet sagging abdominal skin on national television as well. In the pre-op consultations with the surgeon (shown, along with the surgery, on the second Surviving Twins and Sextuplets special), Kate openly discussed her dissatisfaction with her post-6 breasts and broached the topic of breast surgery with Dr. Glassman who said it wasn’t necessary. Despite all of this, the haters have convinced themselves that Kate, after all of this, suddenly became secretive about MORE plastic surgery. To me, that makes no sense.
I don’t think it’s any of our business and it’s Kate’s decision what she decides to make public about her life. With the haters, the mantra focuses on the term fake: fake hair, fake boobs, etc. I was unaware that of any scientific research establishing so much as the possibility that all women who have had plastic surgery and/or have ever used any chemical process (color, perm, straighten, etc.) on their hair are unfit mothers and should lose their children immediately. I’ve never believed that just because a celebrity lets the public into part of their lives means that there are no limits and no right to privacy.
Peggy #127,”I’ve never believed that just because a celebrity lets the public into part of their lives means that there are no limits and no right to privacy.”
This mirrors my opinion on the privacy of a celebrities life. Just because we get a little peek into their lives that does not give us the right to know every tiny detail of their private lives. Unless they change the Constitution of the United States which I strongly doubt will ever happen I believe we all have a right to privacy.
I find the rumors about Kate & Steve having an affair intriguing and the extreme lengths, leaps and bounds, hoop jumping, and lying that the KHN (Kate hater nation) go to to prove it is true.
My thought on this is if it were true….who could/would blame her? I think he is super supreme eye candy with a voice that compliments all the candy.
Kate is endangering her children now because Shoka can open the door? How ridiculous is that? No matter what the poor woman says or does they will find something to complain about when it comes to her.
I must admit Lindsey that us some fantastic eye candy and he could talk day and night as far as I’m concerned. lol
Do you think that if you provide an “expert” opinion that makes you an expert or that qualifies your opinion? See, I mentioned ONE thing and you have taken it to the nth degree to justify or prove something.
Lindsey –
RE: Kate & Steve
After all this time and the absolute microscope of paps and bloggers – if there was any fire to that smoke we would have seen evidence by now. Think of all the people that denied affairs and within weeks there would be photographs. That one is a dead horse. But do they let it go?
TCparra says:
October 6, 2011 at 9:41 am
#107 – maybe because Kate keeps trying to convince everybody they are real? She was “flat” in the early years of the show, then she ballooned up pretty quick in the last few years. No “good Bra” will add that much cleavage without some help. IMO.
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Keeps trying to convince everyone? Really? Where is the evidence to proof that Kate has continued to convince everyone she has not had a boob job?
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I also suggest going to a professional bra fitting and gettng them to suggest some proper bras for you and then we’ll discuss whether or not one can make you look larger than you actually are. And while you’re at it, I suggest you check out Victoria Secret’s campaign bragging about a bra that makes it look like you’ve increased bust size by 2 cups.
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October 6, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Kate is endangering her children now because Shoka can open the door? How ridiculous is that? No matter what the poor woman says or does they will find something to complain about when it comes to her.”
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Who said this?
Funny, the above holds true for Jon as well. Works both ways.
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You know, I showed the various pictures of Kate over the years to a friend of mine. She asked her husband who is a local plastic surgeon and he said that there really in NO WAY to determine if she got implants or not and any person who suggests that they know either way is just blowing hot air. My friend and I had a good laugh about the insanity and “arm chair” experts out there.
Am I at the wrong place? I thought we could express our opinions here. nth degree? It was a conversation that took place two days ago why would anyone take offense with it #133. Kate’s boobs are actually something I haven’t discussed anywhere because I’ve thought from the beginning it was such a silly rumor and didn’t bear any more than a passing thought. I did find it interesting to hear my friends mom’s expert advice as it wasn’t something I sought and it just happened to be brought up in a very recent conversation. Maybe it makes sense and that’s why someone would take offense. Some people don’t want to part with their conviction that something is true and resent anyone that shakes that foundation. Trust me I could care less one way or another whether Kate has or hasn’t had something done with her boobs. I truly don’t care whether anyone gives any credence to a professional’s opinon or not. Absolutely no Nth degree here, there is no competition, only discussion. To use an old say, “it’s no skin off my back”. lol
#138 Actually that’s not true that a doctor couldn’t tell from a photograph or video, especially video but as I said I could care less one way or another. No need for baiting you can have the floor and your Nth degree.lol
I will definitely agree with one thing though, that most of the “armchair experts” on the internet that work for these entertainment outlets are nothing but rubbish. These so called psychologists, life choice experts, body language experts, are basing their opinions on something they cannot see. You can’t take and diagnose someone’s brain or behavior without truly knowing the person personally and the complete history of a particular person. It is my opinion they will say what they believe their “client” wants them to say.
I’m still waiting to hear who said the dogs could open the door kate was endangering the childrens lives?
Well, I think Jon has man boobs. He was nice and in shape when married to Kate, now he sags everywhere. Yes, if you buy the right bra, you can look bigger. Go to a bra fitting once with a store that knows what you need and you will see the difference. I went after I saw the subject on Oprah., and boy did I learn a lot. The fit was great.
So you are saying you CAN tell if someone did from photos or video? That isn’t consistent with the fans saying that the haters cant’t tell anything about her boobs from pictures. So which is it?
snickers how to you find a bra fitting expert? I would love to have an expert give me a better fit. I’ve looked in the phone book but haven’t found one.
How am I suppose to know #144? I’m just repeating what I was told. I can say though that it only makes sense if in a video you can tell the “movement” so who knows maybe that’s the defining difference. Besides who said all the fans agree on everything concerning Kate? To each their own. It’s not exactly an all or nothing subject. As I stated I could care less about another woman’s breasts. I honestly think it’s a stupid and pointless discussion when there are far more important things in the world. Boob Gate is done, finished, finale as far as I’m concerned. The End.
You know, I don’t like President Obama. Never have. And as such it’s very easy for me to believe all the false information out there about Obama’s deeds, speeches, actions, etc. But since I know there’s a CRAP-LOAD (technical term ya know) I always check with Snopes or TruthorFiction.com before I send anything about Obama on to friends. I don’t like the man, but I don’t want to spread misinformation.
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Cut to Kate Gosselin and the Gosselin blogging world. Lots and lots of poor pathetic souls out there more than willing to spread ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they read,and hear about Kate simply because they don’t like her. And there’s no Snopes or TruthorFiction.com to check information, only Kate herself, and even then the poor, pathetic souls that don’t like Kate dismiss facts and make up more crap about her and/or her kids. I guess for some people this is a habit, entertainment, whatever. Once again, poor, pathetic souls that go after her simply because they don’t like Kate Gosselin.
TC…Kate wrote a blog “from Shoka” about being able to unlock the door to get out and some poor pathetic soul took that and blew it up into Kate being irresponsible and her kids being in danger because the door can be unlocked and opened by the dog. So in answer to your question, it was a poor pathetic soul that took an innocent blog and turned it against Kate simply because she doesn’t like Kate and NOTHING Kate can or will ever do will make this poor pathetic soul happy.
Psst..Kmom2: stick w. TruthorFiction. ;0)
Okie Dokie HB!!!! ;))
Snopes=bias
FactCheck=better
TruthorFiction=consistent w. FACTS
Especially when dealing w. politics.
Joy,
You need to find a store that just sells bra’s and the saleswomen are fantstic. I know several years ago Younkers offered service in their stores. Check around and do some research. They are expensive, but well worth the dollars.
Kmom2,
I’ll bet Shoka would be a very good guard dog. Of course saying this, it will be spun that Shoka will bite someones leg off if they go on the property. 🙂
#148, not here though, right? No one here said that about her entry on her blog, right?
Thank you snickers I will definitely look into that but off hand I don’t know of any dedicated stores in our city but then again I haven’t looked for one as I didn’t even know they existed.
#136 You couldn’t be more wrong. The Kate supporters have on numerous occasions given Jon credit where credit is due. When he quit smoking many fans praised him because not only was he protecting his children from second hand smoking but his own health would be better if he quit. Example 2: When Jon finally got a job after sitting on the couch for over a year the Kate fans gave him kudos for finally getting responsible and going back to work. Those are only two examples among others, but I’ve yet to see any anti fan give Kate credit for anything she has said or done.
Joy,
I thought Jon had 60,000 supporters on private twitter just talking to him. He’s that private person don’t you know. Jon’s standards are his alone, and what Kate wants should be the same. Of course, you will never see a kind word offered to Kate, so I guess that leaves Jon fair game also. 🙂
Funny moments from the hate blogs:
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The haters waiting in great anticipation for the release of the tell all book by Al Walentis because they thought he would confirm the lies they had been spreading about Kate. Instead, they were so pissed because 1) he said Kate never called the paps and he didn’t believe Kate was having an affair and 2) it was Jon that called the paps and told them where Kate and the kids would be so they would leave him alone when he went to bars.
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When E!THS showed the wrong couple as Kate’s parents. Turns out it was Polly Kahl that had identified them. She said in Nina Fryes’s chat room if someone gave her proof she would contact E!THS.
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When some of the hate blogs were pissed at Polly for doing the E!THS. They felt they should have been contacted since they had been blogging about Kate longer than Polly.
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Polly’s post trying to convince everyone she did give them information about child exploitation but E!THS instead showed her as the town gossip.
GeeWhiz,
I still can see old Polly running after the kids in the corn maze and driving like a bat out of h$$l to follow them home, while the pap is chasing them both. LOL.
GeeWhiz, The reaction to Al’s book was a hoot. I agree, one of the funny moments.
Kmom2#148, Isn’t that ridiculous? The energy they waste on their “worries and concerns” about every little thing that Kate says and does.., it’s nothing but a reflex for them now. I saw some “concern” over the school being peanut-free in regards to Kate taking DC cupcakes for Cara and Mady’s classes. As if Kate is the ONLY parent taking cupcakes to school. But, it’s wrong wrong for Kate. Mumbear#111, you are right, there’s no way for Kate to win. They can’t quit their fun.
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Just a few hours left for our crockpot contest. So hurry up if you haven’t entered!
I have talked before about my very old crockpot that is now 30yo. It has always worked and there was a never a reason to replace it. But, oops!, I flipped on the wrong stove burner and the crockpot cord was near it. I was right there, so I caught it immediately. But w/the melt, it is time to bid it farewell. Can’t wait to hear a review by our winner! I have to save the inside pot for family posterity. It can become a planter. 🙂
An ah-ha moment from the IW blog:
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When “sunfire” was all over the rag mags bashing Kate and singing the praises of Jon and Ellen. She also stated they were going to Australia/New Zealand and knew when they would return. When she came to IW she made the mistake of posting from work and guess where she worked? The same place as Ellen.
OK… so the haters latest crusade is to get Kate off Twitter… WHY? Every single television and movie personality tweets and no one has a problem with it, so WHY is Kate not supposed to be on Twitter? A rhetorical question, I’m sure, but when is enough enough with these people? When they banish Kate to a cave somewhere in another civilization? Don’t any of them have a conscience about what they are doing??
#160 how do you know this person was logged in at Ellen;s work? Just curious.
#155, so because someone said atta boy on his stopping smoking, you don’t think what you said works both ways? OK. regardless of a couple of ridiculous examples, it still works both ways. If jon had some interview tomorrow, you and every other fan would find a reason to give him crap about it, or ANY srticle that comes out with a “source”, you would blame him.
#156, what the heck are you saying? doesn’t make any sense.
# 157 – what hate blogs are you reading where you come up with these scenarios?
ETHS showed her as the town gossip? Why because they had her on there talking? Because BM wasn’t asked?
Judy-That’s mind-boggling (#161). Not only do an overwhelming celebrities have Twitter accounts, but so do many nobodies like me. The worst of the haters have made it clear that nothing short of Kate losing everything, including her children, will satisfy them.
As for why they want her off Twitter, my guess would be that it’s because Twitter has given Kate a voice to directly connect with her fans, realize how much support she has. It also, along with her new, non-TLC-controlled blog, gives her the opportunity & quickly rebut the rumors the haters create and circulate.
#163 Ridiculous examples? lol What do you expect some kind of earth shattering examples of Jon’s miraculous good deeds? I would say they are excellent examples in my opinion and much better than “She was “flat” in the early years of the show, then she ballooned up pretty quick in the last few years” or ” “See, I mentioned ONE thing and you have taken it to the nth degree to justify or prove something.” or ” – maybe because Kate keeps trying to convince everybody they are real?” Here is the best one of them all if you’re talking about ridiculous statements, “I said she was a glorified Med assistant……” That was the topper IMO.
By the way in most cases the “source” is pretty obvious because there is only three people that would have known anything about their private lives and that would be Jon/Ellen and Kate. Well we know Kate isn’t going to diss herself so what choice does that leave you? Please don’t bother to answer because you don’t answer questions, you only switch it up and ask the same question in a different form #155.
#163 the ONLY reason Jon gets crap if he does an interview is because it is he who proclaimed the following ““This is my last interview. I value my privacy”
If you make such a bold statement IMO you’re a liar if you repeatedly give more interviews AFTER you’ve made the statement above and if you really value your “privacy” you don’t tweet to 60,000 people on your “private” twitter nor do you continue to give interviews.
#163 What does BM have to do with it? I doubt that she would have even partaken in the E’s True Story since Kate had not authorized it and it was already full of people that have never met Kate and to be honest don’t know anything about her except what we all have read or seen concerning her life. Maybe just maybe Polly comes off as the town gossip because she brags about wearing wigs while following every movement that Kate makes or she switches cars to hide the fact that she is stalking Kate. Or maybe it’s because she is obsessed why Kate has a mail box on her property.
I’ll let the rest of the ladies here finish it because there are so many examples that we could show you that proves that Polly is the town gossip. So ladies feel free to add to the list I started to explain to #163 as to why Polly is the town gossip.
tcparra – The answer to your questions in #162 and #164 is in my comment #75.
Gee- you throw something out there like # 160 and you expect people to review the IW blog to find the answers? That is Drama blog material when you accuse people of something and then run when asked where you get such nonsense.
#168 – If they would have asked her, she would have jumped on it. She already thinks her and Kate are alike.
“I said she was a glorified Med assistant……” That was the topper IMO.
By the way in most cases the “source” is pretty obvious because there is only three people that would have known anything about their private lives and that would be Jon/Ellen and Kate. Well we know Kate isn’t going to diss herself so what choice does that leave you? Please don’t bother to answer because you don’t answer questions, you only switch it up and ask the same question in a different form #155.
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Yes I said that about medical assistant. That was also when I was corrected by Pam about Kates degree and I have not said that since.
Your “obvious” who the source is comment is the same Drama blog BS that is thrown around. YOU have no idea who the source is, so it has to be Jon or Ellen right? That is ridiculous and simple gossip/rumor.
Wait, they are trying to get her off Twitter? Are they really that naive? How are they going to do that? You can block anyone. I’m sure Kate can’t even see their tweets since Twitter has decent blocking settings. So what they are doing is just wallowing in negative crap 24/7? The people doing that are doing more harm to their own mental health than they can ever do to Kate.
Plus – great job saving the children, what idiots.
Thankyou for your warm welcome. I’m kinda lucky unlucky. I miss being around when you are all buzzing, but I get a huge amount to read at night this end of the world lol, just kicking I couldn’t go for the crock pot lol.
and speaking of dogs opening doors, I think Kate’s kids are old enough to open doors themselves now aren’t they? So this statement is kind of fruit loopy, oh well, I’d better make sure our goat never learns to do the same 🙂 its bad enough she looks in my kids lunch boxes to check the contents.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! You might as well be saying that when you come to a blog and start crying about some lame “attempt” to get Kate off twitter. How in the world does anyone think that some idiot non fans is going to get Kate off twitter? Why is that even worth the time to type?
Gee- you throw something out there like # 160 and you expect people to review the IW blog to find the answers? That is Drama blog material when you accuse people of something and then run when asked where you get such nonsense. ~ tcparra
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Why do you call everything you do not know about “Drama blog material”? So silly.
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I did not run I want you to understand that if you want to discuss something you should educate yourself first, like the rest of us have done. The only reason I am providing this link is because you have accused the IW ladies of providing nonsense.
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https://imperfectwomen.com/another-gosselin-insider-well-maybe-2/
#164-it showed her as the town gossip because that’s exactly what she is, that’s got nothing to do with BM, how did that even factor in? Polly has been shown to be an liar many times over, she’s also shown to be quite creepy. Why would anyone in their right mind even listen to this woman?
Gee- you throw something out there like # 160 and you expect people to review the IW blog to find the answers? That is Drama blog material when you accuse people of something and then run when asked where you get such nonsense.~TCparra
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TC, some of us have been at this a long time. Do you really expect a link provided for every item of which you are ignorant? Especially, when you accuse and ask in such a nasty tone.
TC….in #175 THAT IS EXACTLY OUR POINT! These people are that stupid and obsessed with Kate that they think they can actually get her off Twitter! This is how bat-sh*t crazy these idiots are.
BTW…my son is with me and he says Hi to all of you. (He’s had a little too much coffee…..lol)
#175 “The sky is falling, the sky is falling! You might as well be saying that when you come to a blog and start crying about some lame “attempt” to get Kate off twitter.”
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How rude! It appears that someone might be in desperate need of a Happy Meal today. Coming in with such a negative attitude and making statement like “The sky if falling” is downright obnoxious and rude. In case you haven’t noticed this thread is about the ridiculous things that are said out there in the Gosselin world along with the rumors/lying and IMO coming and acting all dramatic because someone makes a statement that she saw the haters want Kate off Twitter is extremely rude and confrontational. Of course I’ve got the feeling you think ALL of our comments aren’t “worth the time to type” JMO you understand.
Side Note” Sometimes #175, WISHES don’t come true and you’ve got to live with it. lol
Lily I couldn’t agree more!!
Lily “Especially, when you accuse and ask in such a nasty tone”
Totally agree and that is why my reaction in #181 to comment #175
Maybe someone is in a bad mood today. Be happy it’s TGIF! Yea!
“When “sunfire” was all over the rag mags bashing Kate and singing the praises of Jon and Ellen. She also stated they were going to Australia/New Zealand and knew when they would return. When she came to IW she made the mistake of posting from work and guess where she worked? The same place as Ellen.”
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I don’t know how IW did a “pennmommy” investigation, but no where in the link you provided does it say ANYTHING about posting from work. In fact it says: “Here’s where it gets interesting. We decided to do a little “Penn Mommy” investigation on Ms. Sunfire and what do you think we found out? Well, Sunfire is (or was) a government worker for the state of PA! The Department of Environmental Protection, to be exact. (No, we will not be sharing her real name).”
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I am curious, how would your investigation show anything about where she was? I’m not trying to be a smart ass, I am seriously asking how?
#179, and so what do you think you are accomplishing by stressing out about it on this blog (or any blog for that matter)? What do some of the tweets say? I am curious what a person or a group of hater fanatics is saying that has fans all upset.
Ok, again, please let’s try and refrain from discussing other posters. I know it’s easy to get off track, but the purpose of this thread is to discuss Kate + Rumors. It’s fine to disagree and to bring up opinions you don’t agree with, but personal jibes back and forth get tedious to read. Thank you and Happy Friday.
Mumbear, glad we can provide you interesting nightly reading material. Nice to wake up to YOUR comments. 🙂 Love the wide geographic spread of imperfect women!
#181, if you are offended by my comments, then don’t read them! The mods of this blog didn’t have a problem with it.
Rude? Please, rude is pretending to be …. oh never mind. Nasty tone? Come on? That was my version of what you were saying. Someone saying that haters want Kate off twitter, when that clearly isn’t going to happen, is just someone desperate for attention, hence the “sky is falling” comment. If that offended you, maybe you should stick to your home blog.
I know what this thread is about, you provide plenty of “ridiculous things that are said out there in the Gosselin world along with the rumors/lying”
“Do you really expect a link provided for every item of which you are ignorant? ” Lily, that was a bit rude as well. I ask for examples of some stuff because it does sound so outrageous and at times, my asking has proven that some people DO make up stuff and have nothing to support their wild theories.
Another anti fan comment that is repeated over and over again. Kate doesn’t really run. From the photos taken while she was out for a run some of the anti fans have declared Kate doesn’t run because both feet were on the ground in some photos taken.
TC, out of respect for Sunfire’s true identity and also because we don’t want to get into how exactly we were able to prove to our satisfaction that Sunfire is/was a co-worker of Ellen’s, we aren’t going to share the details on this. I totally understand if some will discount the information because we aren’t sharing more. And that is fine. I don’t really consider Sunfire that important in the overall discussion of the Gosselins, but that’s just me.
TC-RE: #175 Before you decided to ridicule people over the idea of haters trying to get Kate off Twitter, you might have considered doing research first. Denial of service attacks are a major problem on the internet and Twitter has been the target of such attacks. See blog.twitter.com/denial-of-service-attack.html. In that notification, Twitter defined denial of service attacks as “malicious efforts orchestrated to disrupt and make unavailable services such as online banks, credit card payment gateways, and in this case, Twitter for intended customers or users. We are defending against this attack now and will continue to update our status blog as we continue to defend and later investigate.” You may be unwilling or unable to appreciate the potential seriousness of this kind of threat, but, fortunately, Twitter does.
Anya, see that is why people have a problem when a blog says they have the information but can’t share how they got it. You might as well say “I know, so you just need to believe me” Does your “information” show that she was logged into a work computer as some have said? Does this mean you are using some IP tracking program?
Why are you worried about her ID? If she is an “insider” Why does her comments warrant further “investigation”?
I wasn’t ridiculing people. I’m sure you have heard of chicken little. I was comparing the fanatics crying about kate and the attempts to get her off twitter to chicken little.
Why consume yourself worrying about some idiot(s) attempt to get kate off twitter, when the reality of that happening is zero to none?
Sorry but I will disagree with you #189. I do believe you are referring to a comment made days ago but what you deliberately ignored was the fact that someone else heard the same thing although you keep accusing one person of lying. There are times where an interview or a reporter reports something on TV which does not become a “staple” on the internet. I don’t know what your requirements are for proof but I do believe that someone backing up a claim for most people is enough to satisfy them. We can’t help you if your “requirements” are higher than everyone else on the planet. Besides I think that there may be some here that are tired of providing proof when you could get it as easily as anyone of us. If you don’t mind I think we would appreciate it if you would quit telling us to go to our “home blogs”. You don’t know whether IW is our “home” blog or not. I have been on IW for a long time and long before you showed up and I dont appreciate you telling me to leave.
Anya sorry but TC shouldn’t have free reign to tell other people on this blog to go some other blog and keep making accusations and attacks on us individually.
You might as well say “I know, so you just need to believe me”
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TC, in fact, we said just the opposite at the time we revealed Sunfire and I said the same just now: “I totally understand if some will discount the information because we aren’t sharing more.”
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And no, we aren’t using some fancy tracking program. All of IW’s profits (such as they are!) went into buying the crockpot for our fantastic give-a-way.
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Now sure how we got on the subject of Sunfire, but I’d love to put it to rest.
#190 – you brought it up about the running. I would venture to guess that people question her running because it takes a LOT of work and dedication and training. How long has she been running? She is already up to 10+ miles now? She runs with her Iphone in her hands? Why isn’t there any video of her running? I guess we’ll see when she runs in the event (half marathon?) she is allegedly training for. If she dogs out quickly, it would be safe to assume her running stories were just that, stories. In any case, more power to her if she is doing it, but her body (legs) would have more muscle tone and appearance of someone who runs. I am not analyzing photos with a magnifying glass or high def scanner and critiquing, these are IMO only.
“Do you really expect a link provided for every item of which you are ignorant? ” Lily, that was a bit rude as well
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TC, No, it was a direct question based on your comments. But, whatev. You’ve made it apparent to me that you’re not here for discussion. I’m here for a good time.
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I was trying to remember all of the “fakes” that were out there after Pennmommy. I know there was one that said she was caterer. I think one of the funnier insiders were the flight attendants (writing in a group.) I think that was for their flight to Alaska. Supposedly most of the kids were sick and the flight attendants made them toast, got them clothes and gave them blankets. They even saw what type of vehicle the G clan departed in from the airport.
“Do you really expect a link provided for every item of which you are ignorant? ” Lily, that was a bit rude as well. I ask for examples of some stuff because it does sound so outrageous and at times, my asking has proven that some people DO make up stuff and have nothing to support their wild theories. ~ tcparra
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The only time I remember a poster being proved wrong was when she spoke about something posted on a twitter account that she thought was Jon’s. She did not make up anything. Please share what you asked “that has proven that some people DO make up stuff and have nothing to support their wild theories”.
Peggy #192 you are correct and it would be nice if someone would do their homework first before throwing out such comments as “chicken little”. It’s serious enough for Twitter to define it’s rules and regulations and not something to just take lightly as if there are no consequences. It is my opinion that it is very immature to act in such a manner.
Anya sometimes you just have to go on faith and the integrity of people or blogs. I personally don’t think you have to provide undeniable proof of a statement to be believed. You have to have a level of trust. I think we should respect IW’s stance on the “sunfire” controversy because you have your reasons and I don’t think it needs to be called into question. It is your right as to whether or not you choose to reveal private information.
GeeWhiz that was not proven to be wrong but I can respect the desire to leave that subject alone because of minors involved. It was the “opinion” of others it was not a certain person’s account but it wasn’t proven to NOT be.
Gee – Just as you tell me, do the research yourself.
People throw stuff out there about all parties involved and pretend to know every detail about this train wreck, regardless of their “source”.
It’s not about proving your were right or not. I think it is irresponsible blogging if you are going to have “breaking” investigative information and stop short of actually providing any details other than, “its true, I know it” IMO
Another blog has a *cough* so called new poster who claims to be an Ex friend of Kates.They jumped on that real fast. So far it’s much ado about nothing. IMO just one of the blog members trying to make a scandal. I’m expecting a new twitter account for this faux friend.
Also, JMO, If I were invited to a persons house and then started being rude and Insulting to to the homeowner, I’d be ashamed of myself.
Gee – Just as you tell me, do the research yourself. ~ tcparra
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Difference between us is I HAVE PROVEN what I say. I already said there was ONLY 1 time you questioned something that turned out most believed was not true. So thank you for confirming that was the only time.
I am only trying to ask: How is a bunch of haters trying to get kate off twitter? What are they doing, signing petitions to invalidate her account? Reporting her for some infraction? What are they doing? Unless she is threatening someone with death or spamming people, what are a bunch of nutty haters going to do and why even make a bid deal about it on pro blogs?
When I say irresponsible blogging, I mean that if the Admin at 15MINS said “I have information about Kate and what she did to one of the kids” or something similar and disclaimed it with: “I will respect their privacy by not revealing the source or how I know it” EVERY BLOG and commentor would be all up in arms for proof or would call BS on the blog.
Tcparra,
You have a right to your opinion, but I am pretty sure you realize that we don’t run our site according to your opinion.
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Just so you know, the BL did say it was Ashley leaving a comment on her site without any real proof. No one was up in arms on this website.
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Gee- I don’t need to prove anything when I am asking questions and have opinions. I am not getting on here and acting like I KNOW everything I say is fact. I don’t pretend to have the inside track to sources or know who these “sources” are. If I was pretending to be all knowledgeable, then yes I should provide back up.
TC-RE: 194. You are so certain that there can be no credible threats against Kate but you’ve never given your basis for your absolute conviction (“zero to none” risk). Denial of service attacks are real and they have occurred on Twitter but showing you that has no impact on you whatsoever. There are far bigger celebrities than Kate but that has no impact on whether a disturbed person can become obsessed with a celebrity and be a danger to them. Both Rebecca Shaffer and Theresa Saldana were just getting noticed when they were attacked by obsessed men. Shaffer died; Saldana almost died. Now that celebrities interact with fans via the internet; internet related crimes has become another risk. The only reason I can see for the facility with which you dismiss any possibility that there is any risk of harm to Kate is your obvious contempt for Kate.
Peggy, read it again. I said zero to none (that anyone will be successful of getting kate off twitter). I’ sure she has her share of threats, like everyone has told me
“What is a blog? A blog is a personal diary. A daily pulpit. A collaborative space. A political soapbox. A breaking-news outlet. A collection of links. Your own private thoughts. Memos to the world.
Your blog is whatever you want it to be. There are millions of them, in all shapes and sizes, and there are no real rules.”
#208 aka TCParra, I put up the definition of what a blog is just in case you don’t understand what it is. It’s thoughts, opinions, facts, conjectures, news, etc. It is NOT a court of law where proof must be introduced to back up a claim. If this blog was a court of law I agree, it should then provide the proof to back up statements made but since it isn’t a court of law nobody is required to substantiate every single thing that is stated on it. The rules are made by the blog owner/owners. Again it is not a court of law where solid evidence in required to make a claim or statement.
Hopefully you will get over your problem with every single word, statement or opinion HAS to have proof behind it before it’s stated or to back it up. Even though you may have an opinion that many of us don’t agree with you have a right to be here unless the blog owners say otherwise. It’s called Freedom of Speech. So please allow us to have our freedom of speech and do not be expect or demand from us to proof beyond a shadow of doubt every word that comes out of our mouths. You are free TC to Google and research what is said on this blog but please quit demanding proof. If it’s proof you want and desperately need it might be a more enjoyable if you went to your local courts and sit in and watch some of the trials where proof is required. Just a suggestion remember IW is a BLOG and a COURT ROOM is where proof is required to back up everything that is stated in court. Of course also remember all it takes is ONE person to back up what someone is saying or ONE witness that saw an event and to the courts that is all that is required for proof.
In #194……we aren’t consuming ourselves with Kate being booted off Twitter…DRAMA MUCH??? I have never seen anyone on this website with the exception of one, consume themselves with anything Gosselin related. It’s just the whole point of this post is the silly, stupid, outrageous things done and or said about Kate. Getting Kate off twitter is just one of those things. It’s not about whether or not booting Kate off twitter can or will be done. IT’S THE FACE THAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS ARE GOING TO TRY IT OR THINK IT’S A GOOD IDEA.IF YOU ARE THAT INVESTED IN A MOTHER OF 8 CHILDREN THEY HAVE NEVER MET……THERE IS SOMETHING MENTALLY WRONG WITH THEM.
#212 Kmom2 said “….we aren’t consuming ourselves with Kate being booted off Twitter.” I will agree with that nor IMO is anyone else consumed with Kate being booted of Twitter nor do I think anyone else is consumed with any of the number of things that have been said or done to Kate. It’s called “blogging” and that’s simply what it is. I for one have found numerous things on this blog that interest me and I enjoy many of the other stories.
Happy Friday everyone and I hope you all have a great weekend filled with smiles and laughter.
Gee- I don’t need to prove anything when I am asking questions and have opinions. I am not getting on here and acting like I KNOW everything I say is fact. I don’t pretend to have the inside track to sources or know who these “sources” are. If I was pretending to be all knowledgeable, then yes I should provide back up. ~ tcparra
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I never claimed to know everything. I discuss and give MY OPINION on articles I HAVE READ which is my right. We should be able to do this without receiving a response of: that is made up in your mind, drama blog material, a bunch of BS, your comment is nonsense, that is a ridiculous example.
LOL, Lily, I remember the flight attendant fakers. And the caterer…that was in response to some hater being frustrated that there was no evidence of an organic chef. The poor baby had to make up the evidence! Remember “Jon’s mom” was posting somewhere. And then the occasional school mom shows up to assure us Kate is a terrible mom regarding the school, too. There was a “school mom” who saw Kate take her mother’s Day crafts from the sextuplets and throw them away in the garage. She forgot that school moms can’t see Kate’s garage from the parking lot of the school.
Gee-
I never claimed to know everything. I discuss and give MY OPINION on articles I HAVE READ which is my right. We should be able to do this without receiving a response of: that is made up in your mind, drama blog material, a bunch of BS, your comment is nonsense, that is a ridiculous example.
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Totally agree. I would like to add that if I say I read something I read it. If someone else would like to read it I might or might not have time to google it. If I don’t have time I will indicate the website, approximate date that I read it to assist someone in locating it. I am not obligated to become someone’s assistant and track things down. Believe me or don’t believe. Doesn’t matter to me.
preesi.lefora.com/2011/09/09/tweets-from-the-twat-part-trois-otherwise-known
It’s not rocket science! If you want to get inside the head of these people just read the above site.
Blogging is a free world, that should go for Kate also! Free means to be Free, that means don’t negatively affect (bully) others! So don’t preach free speech then slam Kate for her use of FREE SPEECH.
The above site contains(if you take as much time to view it carefully as you do to share your opinion online) the usual ‘few’ ringleaders, then some groupies, some sold their soul purely because Kate did not reply to their tweets!
On the above site it does contain ‘talk’ about getting Kate OFF twitter! (although they may have rushed to delete all evidence now!) it also contained subtle mentions of hospitalisation of Kate.
One admitted to me that they do shifts to hit on Kate, I tweeted a friendly tweet on Kate’s tag when ALL US should have been asleep and instantly scored an Arrow aimed at me! Their hope is to get to her so badly she quits! SCHOOL YARD BULLYING.
and its also humorous because I have blocked so well, I see NOTHING nasty, I check my new followers tweet history and block if nasty to anyone, and since telling others to do the same have had a steady stream of ‘private’ accounts check me out and unfollow when I’ve challenged them! They won’t find rubbish from me, I don’t follow their ways! I won’t abuse them, tweet all day about them, wish them ills, harass them no matter how awful they are! I will PITY them which they would HATE!
Their goal is to get at new followers and see Kate’s follow list decline, they hit on new followers and claim some converts!
Oh and before I end, they preach that reality tv is wrong, that kids don’t belong on TV yet in one’s tweet history I found them tweeting another celeb saying they hope they see them back on reality tv soon because they MISS THEM!
Oh! and one more thing. I personally know of an issue that only 1 other follower knew about yet a hater posted a tweet about it! Only someone close to Kate would have known (and no I’m not going to share what it was)
It’s Saturday here.. YAY 🙂 Take care.
Hi MumBear, Happy Saturday from TGIF-time.
You found “Preesi’s” site? Preesi started the “Kate and Jamie are lesbian lovers” rumor. She’s one Kate’s very first haters.
Mumbear says..One admitted to me that they do shifts to hit on Kate, I tweeted a friendly tweet on Kate’s tag when ALL US should have been asleep and instantly scored an Arrow aimed at me! Their hope is to get to her so badly she quits!
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Interesting. I have to say based on the 5 or 6 “accounts” that I see plastered on Kate’s timeline every time I step away from my happy place in BlockLand, this appears to be true.
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Boy, that’s a fun use of one’s time! And I have to say, I don’t think Kate is very easily bullied. In fact, one of her strengths is her thick skin and her focus. The haters may chase away a few random fans, but not enough to make a real difference, IMO. Most of the fans I have seen targeted are just plain bewildered by these freaks that are bothering them on Twitter!
For some reason part of my comment #220 didn’t make it through so it should have read “…I would NEVER, not EVER, “talk” to ANY blog owner the way you did today.”
I must admit that I do not understand what point the haters who obsessively analyze whether or not Kate is “running” hopes to prove. She has certainly been photographed on the road in running gear clearly exerting herself enough times. TC at #197-I’m not sure why you are raising doubts that I haven’t even seen haters raise. They nitpick over whether she runs or walks (with some parsing over whether she power or race walks). Walking, particularly in power/race walking, is excellent cardiovascular exercise and many orthopedists recommend it over running/jogging on the grounds that it is lower impact and, thus, easier on the joints. Whatever she is doing, she is showing the benefits of it.
I see a common theme among the more radical Pro blogs that the haters say they hate as a way to help the kids. I am confused by this. Where in any blog has there been a mission statement or common theme that says any of the “hate” is to save the kids? IE: 15mins, I see they are trashed for the above alleged ideal and I don’t get it. I see a lot of criticism on Kate and snark about this or that, but I don’t get the connection that she hates to help the kids.
Good morning ladies. TC and Joy I read just the comments left on this thread from after I went to bed last night. I unapproved a few of yours because they started off insulting toward each other. I apologize if there was more regarding the Gosselins, rumors, or Gosselin-blogging in the comments I trashed. I didn’t read past the insults. Please re-post if you made an important point that is now gone.
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I understand there is tension when participants post nasty comments elsewhere, or pick your comments here apart, etc. If you could please avoid expressing your frustration with each other, and instead make your point, we would appreciate it.
Our Dear Administator of 15 minutes claims she is helping the kids (actually, she claims she is helping ALL kids in reality TV) by running a hate blog.
Schmeckygirl insisted to me on twitter that her tweets bring negative attention to the show, make more people aware of the damage the show is doing, and would help get the show canceled. I showed her comments from a TV producer that negative attention keeps ANY show going and that only sinking ratings get a show canceled. I have to wonder how tweeting to her <50 followers affects any change in anything anyway, but whatevah, whatevah. I am not sure why she still tweets hate but somehow I am sure she's convinced herself it is virtuous.
Bohemian Moon (of the long-defunct Musings blog) not only admitted to "loathing" Jon and Kate (stronger than hate!) but insisted she was doing it to get the show off the air.
GWOP has had some conflict among mods about it's mission. Serena claimed it was child advocacy for the Gosselins and mean-girl Sharla insisted it was just fun for her to hate...she had no care at all about the kids.
Polly Kahl has insisted her mission is to save the Gosselin kids from the horrors of reality TV. And in order to do so, she blogs about them, follows them, drives by their home, takes pictures of them without permission, posts the pictures, allows hateful comments about their mother, exposes the sins of their father, makes up stories about the family, inquires at the post office and the candy store (!) about them, questions the people who live in her county, and gossips, gossips, gossips, about them online and in real life. She has also, cough, tried to make money off them, cough, cough.
ann #224…CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!
“more radical pro blogs” What the heck is that?
I would like to say that a blog should NOT be filled with hypothetical scenarios (ie: made up) and pretend that they are real and happened. There is no need for proof when it’s the truth. Truth doesn’t require hype and constant memorializing to be accepted, it just is, what it is. Cliche, but so true.
If any of my previous comments offended the BLOG owners, I apologize as this is your forum and I may have stayed on my soapbox a little too long sometimes. It is so easy to take comments and get very “passionate” about them, everybody is guilty of it. I think I will put my typing wand down for a bit and go back to where I just READ the zany comments and slants on the whole Gosselin saga. I will say that your blog is very informative and cool! There IS more outside of this family and wasting time trying to see who can “out-comment” the other is silly and a huge waste of time. Nothing wrong with opinions though. (see, now some people will copy/paste this comment to other blogs and say I am kissing butt, but who the hell cares? Not me, I’m just being honest)
Have a great weekend and goooooooooooo Saints!
I will say that your blog is very informative and cool!
I agree this is a great website. I always enjoy it.
#227 “…COMPLETE defense of Kate.”
I can only speak for myself but I read at ALL the Pro Kate blogs and I haven’t seen a single one that hasn’t criticized Kate for something she has said or done. So where “complete” comes in, I haven’t got the foggiest idea where you are getting that. I think that what most of us realize is that we are all humans and we all make mistakes so if she is “forgiven” that is called “freedom of choice” which we all have. I haven’t seen a single blog that hasn’t criticized Kate but like I said just because she makes mistakes like the rest of us it doesn’t mean anyone is going to turn on her and start “hating” on her.
I would like to say that a blog should NOT be filled with hypothetical scenarios (ie: made up) and pretend that they are real and happened. Thanks tc for your perfect description of what the hate blogs have done to Kate for years.
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Kate does jog and there are pictures and vidoes on the net to prove it. Infdaily loves to snark on Kate and if she did not jog they would be mocking her. Also, there are many articles that talk about Kate’s TONED legs. The muscle definition she has in her thighs also proves she jogs. So silly for people to make statements that are easily disproved by searching the net.
FYI – My last comment was in response to the comment that says making up stuff is OK because this is a blog, not a court room and proof isn’t required or needed when posting wild theories or alleged incidents.
The comment #231 you replied to is gone but is seems someone is doing their own spinning & twisting what was said. Nobody used the words “making up stuff is OK because this is a blog, not a court room” What was said is this is a blog with opinions and this is not a court room where proof is required, it’s a blog.” More twisting the original comments words “proof isn’t required or needed when posting wild theories or alleged incidents” were also not used in a reply and were only your words. In the explanation the words “wild theories or alleged incidents” also was not used except by you. The answer stated this is a blog with opinions and facts and this is not a courtroom where proof is needed for every fact that is stated.
It is so ironic that the very person accusing pro Kate bloggers of making stuff up is the very person who used the words “wild theories” and “making up stuff” when those two phrases were used only by the accuser and not used by anyone is their reply to you and it seems you might be guilty of what you accuse others.
I said I wasn’t going to get into any more debate over comments, however I will say that the comment # I was referencing was #211. Of course you didn’t say “make up stuff” and I didn’t twist anything. You did say that there is a difference between courts and blogs. Proof vs. say whatever you want, you don’t have to really substantiate it.
My comment was really more general, if you feel that I was accusing you, I can’t really concern myself. Have a great day.
#233 That is just the way it came out but if you meant in general terms that’s fine and I have no problem with that.
First time poster. I love this site, you have so much wonderful information for you readers~ I love the comments when you discuss love/hate with Kate Gosselin. But I do not understand why the intensity and passion or worse anger. I liked the Kate+8 show but I never let it define me or make me want to set up a twitter to follow Kate. Fun show to watch, but as the children grew older and Jon left the show the dynamics changed so much that I no longer enjoyed it. Who cares if Kate is mean or nice or if she gets a new job on tv or goes back to nursing? Whatever she does will not affect my life or my family so I say good luck to a fellow human being in this world and go about my life. I hope you all are surviving in these hard times (recession) and wish that instead of concentrating on a reality show mom everyone could come together to make the world a “little” bit nicer place for us all to live. This site is fun to come to read at when I’ve had an extremely rough day. Its nice to have a forum where you can get so much info on different things ~ What I’m trying to say is “Thank You” for this site.
1st time poster, Thank you for the feedback and welcome.
Explanation not needed. FACT remains your statement I would like to say that a blog should NOT be filled with hypothetical scenarios (ie: made up) and pretend that they are real and happened perfectly describes the hate blogs. Thanks again tc.
TCparra says:
October 7, 2011 at 12:24 pm
#190 – you brought it up about the running. I would venture to guess that people question her running because it takes a LOT of work and dedication and training. How long has she been running? She is already up to 10+ miles now? She runs with her Iphone in her hands? Why isn’t there any video of her running? I guess we’ll see when she runs in the event (half marathon?) she is allegedly training for. If she dogs out quickly, it would be safe to assume her running stories were just that, stories. In any case, more power to her if she is doing it, but her body (legs) would have more muscle tone and appearance of someone who runs. I am not analyzing photos with a magnifying glass or high def scanner and critiquing, these are IMO only.
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It’s clear that Kate works on herself, both with eating and exercise. She has said she’s been running for over a year. Jon said on an early episode of the shows that Kate has always worked out an hour a day.
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Running is mind over matter, it’s a complete mind game. If you have the right mind set and determination, you can get up to 10 miles (which she doesn’t do every day) Any runner knows that you don’t necessarily have to run daily, need to rest the muscles. So technically it’s not taking up nearly as much time as all haters claim.
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You’d have to be blind to not see that Kate is toned.
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What does she have to gain by lying about it?
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FYI the iPhone is also an iPod, most runners run with music and some don’t like to use an arm band and prefer to hold it.
TC–not worth the time or energy anymore, LOL.
As far as the funniest rumors out there (aside from the hysterical, jealousy filled ones the RAWten blog has been spreading about *me*, bwahahahaha!) has to be, hands down, from over on the Facebook TLC “Hate Kate and her Kids” page! There, an elderly veteran hater has actually posted a complaining post (as they are wont to do over there) to Kate herself, chiding Kate that *Kate’s* kids aren’t “your kids”!!! LOLOL. Talk about jumping the shark! Unbelievable the depth to which this incredible, inexplicable, undeniable hatred for a woman they have never met goes!
Ann, I wish you’d start a thread about “Am I the Only one?”
My husband has been at his job for over 13 years and for the first time we are afraid he’s going to get laid off.
We lost our home in 2008 and have slowly been building back our lives and finances (medical bills and I lost my job) and now we might lose it all again.
My brother, 3 nieces and a sister in law who have all lost their homes, about to lose their homes, or have lost their jobs or about to lose their jobs, etc..etc..
I’m back to full-time work now but,(while I was unemployed- I worked nightes at Costco as an inventory/stocker) but very afraid of what the future holds.
I’m just wondering is it just “us” (my family) or is anyone else feeling “lost” these days?
I think it would be cool if you’d have a space for people to post ~ or offer morale support for those who need it. This blog is called Imperfect Women, well I’m 100% imperfect. I just wonder am I alone? Because some days I feel like I’m the only one worrying.
{{{{{1st time Poster}}}}}} No, you aren’t the only one. :*( Everytime my husband’s company announces layoffs are coming in a few months, we have to hold our breath and pray that his job isn’t one of the ones that is eliminated. So far we’ve been very blessed that he’s been safe–for a time. However, we learned years ago when he had the ‘perfect’ job at a ‘perfect’ company (and was friends with the president who told him he didn’t have to worry about being laid off no matter what because he was such an ‘invaluable employee’)–well, you guessed it, he got laid off (two days after the president told him that) BY FREAKING EMAIL. Talk about livid–he was shocked, I was furious and called and let that president have a piece of my mind!! >:-( We’ve never forgotten that, and have made preparations for the future in case it happens again. I will pray that your husband’s job is safe, and that things will improve for both of you and your family!
#237, I’m glad you were able to take my words and fit them into your view of the Gosselin blogging world. I would say that the statement works both ways and is prevalent in both “sides” of the fence.
1st time Poster says: “This blog is called Imperfect Women, well I’m 100% imperfect. I just wonder am I alone?”
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1st time Poster my heart goes out to you and what a horrible thing you have and are having due to the downturn in the economy. Without going into specifics I can completely relate to what you and your family members are going through. You aren’t alone either as there are millions going through the same things but sadly you don’t hear much about something being done to help people in your situation. Oh Obama has the refinancing program but what most people don’t realize is that very few people qualify for the programs he likes to brag about. Sounds good saying it but the reality is that so few people are actually being helped. I see it all around me and I too have family members, friends & neighbors that are all going through what you are. I live in a state where it’s the worst in the nation for home foreclosures and job loss. The “short sale” program is a complete failure too that Obama came up with. It also rarely works & no matter how hard you try to get a short sale through it fails in the end. The real reason the short sale program fails is shocking. I’m not a Obama hater but all I know is that the “fixes” aren’t working. It’s a terrible loss to see everything you’ve worked for all these years going down the drain and you feel like you are in a vicious circle and never going to find your way out of it. I’m glad you did land a job and hopefully you will not find yourself on the unemployment line again. Just know there are millions in your shoes and all going through the same depression you are going through and I wish there was an easy answer but there doesn’t seem to be. All we can do is hope and pray that our economy picks up steam and that we won’t have to wait ten years for it to stabilize again. All I can say in comfort is hang in there as there is nowhere to go except up because I think most of us are at the bottom already.
Ann I know this isn’t the thread for talk about the economy and the troubles that millions are having but I feel 1st Poster is reaching out for some encouragement and the fact is that there is no place to turn to talk about it and maybe receive some encouragement and 1st Time needs that right now. I hope that CJ and I have given you at least a friendly ear to let some of the pain out. xxxooo
1st Time Poster said, ” I hope you all are surviving in these hard times (recession) and wish that instead of concentrating on a reality show mom everyone could come together to make the world a “little” bit nicer place for us all to live.”
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I agree and I would hope that everyone wants to come together to make the world a “little” bit nicer place for all of us to live. I think I might have an answer in part to your question as to why people talk about the Gosselins. There is so much strife in our world today the Gosselins might be an escape even if it’s for a moment to think about something other than what we feel is our own insurmountable worries.
Hello and Welcome 1st Time Poster,
We do have a place for people to start their own topics. You can find it in the lounge and it is basically a place for open discussion.
Thanks for posting at Imperfect Women.
MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Latest rumor that kids says they want to live with their daddy! because..U are mean! LOL I know U want to address that one!
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Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack we all wish hewould tak them mor than 4d/mo but doesn’t.they hav fun there but def love living w me/here. So happy here!
Why consume yourself worrying about some idiot(s) attempt to get kate off twitter, when the reality of that happening is zero to none?
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Why not worry about it? Seems kind of silly to worry about people being concern with it but just brush off the fact that it actually happens.
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I’ve yet to see any posts that read as ‘consumed with worry’. Just sayin’
And now I have haters telling me that MY kids aren’t mine. Time for the white coats I think, LOL. My kids ARE mine, and Kate’s kids ARE hers, and if someone’s kids had to race to get married to get out of the nest beecause of weird parents who think their kids are NOT their kids (wonder if they lived in some sort of commune or situation like on Sister Wives? Who knows?), well, that’s between said weird parents and their runaway kids, that’s all I can say. 🙂
1st time, Joy, CJ,
It’s a very important topic, and very timely. Thanks for sharing with us. We are OK ourselves, but we lived through some of the anxiety. Lots of people are struggling right now.
It’s one reason I don’t feel “qualified” to criticize Kate for putting her family on TV. I am happy she had the opportunity to make a good income when she did, because times are tight now everywhere.
It’s also why I am also very happy to hear Jon is working…and in IT which is probably less prone to work stoppage than the outdoor installation work he was doing this spring. Hopefully our snowy winters will not affect whether he has a job to go to like it affects construction workers and carpenters around here.
I love reading the old GDNNOP archives. Very informative. Someone brought this to my attention & I loved the comments here; http://gosselinsdonotneedourpity.blogspot.com/2008/08/sound-off.html especially when you scroll almost to the end of the comments. FGF said… @ August 24, 2008 6:52 PM . lots of gems there!
CJ, thats very interesting, whose children exactly did you give birth to? LOL.
You got me, BlogHawg! And I’m pretty sure Kate will be surprised to learn those 24 weeks on bedrest NEVER happened, even though it was documented! Crazy, crazy world these naysaying non-fans live in, seriously! :-O
EmeraldCityJazz:
@Livin4LifeLove @Kateplusmy8 Night Livin. Crawl into your cold, empty bed & wish you hadn’t driven your husband to blow his brains out.
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I’m not surprised that this person wrote the above, a little browse of her tweets shows just how unhinged she is, but this should lay to rest any questions about how hateful Kate Gosselin haters are.
That one is a real jewel Marnie. The things that pour out of her are a real blow to human kind. She takes being a hater to a whole new level.
Hey, I’m on that thread BlogHawg linked. I was lurkeyhere for a couple of months. I think that was probably my second post.
BlogHawg #251,
There is a wealth of information in the GDNOP archives isn’t there.
I was late to the game but can see there was a time before pennmommy everyone on both sides only dealt in facts. No one would dream of making insider stuff up for fear of getting found out and looking a fool.
Pennmommy’s outing seemed to open the flood gates for lies and rumors. I can’t help to wonder if it was because the non fans were so pissed they were made fools of and a free for all was the only way they could deal with the deception they bought into. I would have thought they would do anything to not get in that position again but I thought wrong.
What good is reading a thread and the comments from 3 years ago? Isn’t there enough “drama” now to keep the comments current?
TCparra,
I think reading any type of history regarding any topic can be informative and interesting. I actually think you should start from the beginning and read GWoP and GDNNOP. You might actually enjoy it, you never know.
Reading history is always good, on subjects that are of some historical importance. Reading old gossip about J&K and then bringing selected parts back to the future and rehashing them for the sake of gossip is not informative or interesting. It just shows things must be getting boring here in the current Gosselin world.
Good one Pam. Odds are she won’t take you up on that. She should though. She’d be more informed and wouldn’t have to keep asking questions.
Taking exception to each and every comment made and now asking why read history and becoming more informative???????? What an absolutely weird world some people choose to live in.
I personally enjoy going back to the beginning and reading the older blog entries. So informative. I also enjoy reading GWOP Without Pity although much of that is tongue in cheek.(but funny). Does anyone know what happened to IWHY?
Tcparra I respectfully disagree. I think it is helpful for any topic that you are discussing to have some type of background info. I don’t care if it is Gosselin related or not.
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I don’t understand how discussing “gossip” present or in the past is any different. You might not find it interesting, that doesn’t mean others would not. Because one doesn’t find it interesting does not make that person right or wrong or a better “gossiper” in my mind.
#261 – Yea, I want to spend my time rereading some nonsense comments and threads from 3 years ago, that’s an even better way of using my time then sitting here debating with people about a stupid reality show that isn’t even on any more. If there was something of intellectual VALUE to read from 3 years ago, then maybe it would be worth browsing.
TCparra,
To each their own.
I said that Pam because if I were to go to the past archives of some “hate” blog and read gossip about Kate and then brought it up here, you can bet everybody would tell me that “horse has been beat to death” or “that was a topic discussed in great length” and why bring it up again. Thats all I meant.
#264 said: “Yea, I want to spend my time rereading some nonsense comments and threads from 3 years ago, that’s an even better way of using my time then sitting here debating with people about a stupid reality show that isn’t even on any more.”
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#264 That is your right if you don’t want to read anything from 3 years ago although if you did then many you wouldn’t be asking any questions or ask for proof about things that happened 3 years ago. Some of your questions might be answered if you did familiarize yourself with the past. If you aren’t interested maybe one shouldn’t ask any questions or make any statements about what happened 3 yrs. or more ago.
I find if you’re just going to throw something out there you should have something to back it up.
TC seems like she’s late in the game or maybe just wants it to seem like that, I wouldn’t know which.
I’m not offended at all by someone who just doesn’t like Kate but it is tiresome when someone just throws something out there that is manufactured in their own minds to find fault.
I also understand wanting your opinion heard even if it tells more about you than Kate but what’s wrong with just stating it and moving on ?
#264 said: “…..that’s an even better way of using my time then sitting here debating with people about a stupid reality show that isn’t even on any more.”
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May I ask a quesiton #264? If you consider it a “stupid reality show” then why DO YOU even discuss it here on this board or anywhere else for that matter? I would love to here your answer if since you have been here for weeks & weeks “since the show has been cancelled and you are still talking about it and asking questions. You said yourself it’s old gossip and you have a” better way of using my time” .
Just because it was said three years ago, doesn’t make it any more truthful. It could be just as Made Up as if someone posted it today. I’m not sure where my questions that I did ask where from 3 years ago, so I’m not really sure why reading old stuff would make me feel better informed or I might find the answers? I wonder if 3 years ago, Jon wasn’t on the “hate” radar the fans have him on now. That might actually be interesting to see how much opinions changed.
#268 – Deborah
October 10, 2011 at 9:22 am
I find if you’re just going to throw something out there you should have something to back it up.
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#264 Have you ever considered that in those old archives there is FACTS along with the “proof” of those FACTS mixed in with the “gossip”? If you did choose to read the past history you wouldn’t be getting any of the “dead horse” or “beaten to death” comments and the best part is that you would also receive the answers to the questions that YOU ask. It’s your right as to whether or not you want to learn about the past but it is my own belief you are more INFORMED person if you did familiarize yourself with the past and not just the present.
Personally history was my favorite subject in school. Now I’m not comparing the Gosselin saga to IMPORTANT world history. But asking why rehash things that happened 3 yrs ago kinds irks me off. Let’s take this a bit further. Why bother rehashing the Holocaust. Gees, it happened over 60 years ago…get over it. Move on.
Personally, I prefer to talk/debate with people who are knowledgeable about many things.I’m not a fan of ppl who stick their heads in the sand or cover their ears because things happened years ago.Be it world history, sports history or heck even silly reality shows. If I don’t know the answers, I look it up…by myself. Cause thats the way I roll TM PP 🙂
Oh, and one of the smartest people I admire is Anderson Cooper. I’d love to sit down and have a dinner conversation with him for hours. He is one of the smartest men out there…and guess what…he LOVES reality tv. Smart man
Well, since Proof isn’t required at a blog, I’m not going to scour the past archives to find the proof of some facts that may or may not be made up to begin with. Again, I don’t think I have asked ANY questions that will be answered from 3 year old gossip, because three years ago, Jon & Kate were a couple with a reality show.
TC, Here’s the thing about having Jon on the “hater” radar, as you put it (I think I know what you mean.) When one side had Jon on the hater radar, he was a supportive father and husband, working to provide for his family, living at home, participating in family activities. He ended up on the other group’s hater radar when he left his wife for a younger woman without first divorcing her, moved away from the kids, went weeks without seeing them, and drained the family’s account for paying bills. Now which makes more sense?
OMG! Amazing, simply amazing:
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Personally history was my favorite subject in school. Now I’m not comparing the Gosselin saga to IMPORTANT world history. But asking why rehash things that happened 3 yrs ago kinds irks me off. Let’s take this a bit further. Why bother rehashing the Holocaust. Gees, it happened over 60 years ago…get over it. Move on.”
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How dare you compare the Holocaust to a reality show? The Holocaust is something that SHOULD NEVER be forgotten. Otherwise, we as a society are doomed to repeat out mistakes.
You love him, even after he put Kate on his Ridulist? I’m sure there are some fans that will “hate” on you now because you like Anderson.
Aw, c’mon, TC, you C&Ped where Sadiemay clearly said she WASN’T comparing the two. She was just answering the question, “Why care about the past?” With something sort of trivial, like a reality show, the answer is less obvious. So Sadiemay used something very important where it’s OBVIOUS why we study the past.
These last few comments have just been amazing! I was told MANY times by people here to stop bringing up OLD (even 6 months old) stuff from the past and to stop beating a dead horse, etc. NOW, a few comments are saying that bringing up the past is informative and educational and OK??
Ann, OK I see where you could interpret it that way. However, I still say that using the Holocaust to prove a point with regards to a Reality show is silly and offensive, to some. Caring about the past of the Holocaust is very important, just as 9/11, all wars over the last 250 years, man on the moon, etc are important. Caring about the past of a Reality show will never have that level of importance.
TC has made some very sweeping judgments of Kate while insisting on something approaching proof beyond a reasonable doubt on anything negative on Jon. Looking at each person’s record of past behavior (not gossip, but behavior of which there is a clear photographic and/or documentary record) provides a method of identifying patterns of behavior. Even the gossip can have significance. In the first place, I’ve seen old canards resurface after a lull; if one is familiar with prior incarnations of them, in many cases one can learn that what is being shopped as something new is, in fact, a retread and a discredited one of that. I came into this after PennMommy had been discredited, but there are many allegations against Kate that those who are familiar with that fraud can trace directly to PennMommy’s lies.
Well, if you’re not interested in proof, stop asking for it from people on this blog.:)
TC, stop clutching your pearls.Did you read this part of my post: “Now I’m not comparing the Gosselin saga to IMPORTANT world history.”
And yes The Holocaust should NEVER be forgotten…I have friends who have family who were in camps and I would NEVER compare a silly reality show to that. And I said that in my post. I’m sure you’ll be bringing my post to your lair and tear me apart but I didn’t compare the two. Don’t make me out a bad guy if you can’t comprehend things.
Thank you Ann.I would never compare the two.
I would really like to see a huge post from tc on all things Jon when he left Kate and the kids for his twenties. Seems she always forgets that part of the so called history.
I was not around in the GDNNOP days. I only started reading the blogs when the divorce stuff came up, I was completely suprised and disgusted by the amount of hate thrown at Kate,and somehow found this blog. My question is what happened to Guinevere, she seemed to be part of that blog and i have never seen her here.
Carol, I don’t know about Guinevere, but when we moved from GDNNOP to IW, some of us, including myself, reverted to using our real names instead of the nicknames previously used.
My question is what happened to Guinevere,~Carol
Guinevere is Jennie@IW. Originally, when we moved from GDNNOP our blogging names were posted on the old blog w/our new IW names beside them.
Guinevere…she was something else, wasn’t she, lol? She was the first to debate me! As Lily said, she’s Jennie@IW, and just as sensible as ever.
So TC, I’m curious, are you only talking about what Kate did today from now on? When its tomorrow, no mentions of yesterday?
Sadie – I am DEEPLY offended by you even mentioning the holocaust in that comment. YES I did read your disclaimer, yet you still used it in your comment. I can comprehend and your ignorance to compare, even slightly is offensive to the people who went through that travesty in history. Why not just say “I apologize and move on” rather than keep trying to inform me that I can’t comprehend and I will take it to my “lair”?
I don’t get the deep offense. She wasn’t comparing the Holocaust to anything. She was using an obvious example of why we read about the past to support why we would read about it in a far more trivial case. By using the Holocaust as an example, she is acknowledging how important and obvious it is- which is just the opposite of trivializing it. And since Sadiemay agreed (twice- in her own explanation and by thanking me for mine) I don’t see what she should apologize for?
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I am of the opinion that it is never a good idea to encourage a misunderstanding by apologizing when you’ve said or done nothing wrong. No one should be asked to defend a position she doesn’t hold or apologize for an offense she hasn’t committed.
OMG, if you read old GDNNOP threads you’ll think I was a hater! Of course, I sort of admitted that I was no Kate fan back in the day in this post. When I met Kate’s mom, she was very good-natured about that confession, lol.
Sadie, you say you would never compare the two, yet you did. You said why ask about stuff that happened 3 years ago just irks you. Then you made the comment about the holocaust and why bring it up, it happened, move on.
I understand (comprehend) you were using it as an analogy of people bringing up the past. I still say it was a terrible analogy.
#287 – Now why would I do that? That would be something for you to do. If I did that about Kate, you would say I was bringing up the past and beating a dead horse, etc.
“That would be something for you to do.” – TC Parra
That’s not necessary.
Ann says…As Lily said, she’s Jennie@IW, and just as sensible as ever.
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That’s not what some posters in the politics thread say. Kidding. Kidding! 🙂 I happen to agree with her most of the time.
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I kind of miss the old Guin. She has certainly mellowed (on the Gosselin saga anyway!).
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So who is following Ipadgate? I just got caught up. The saying about fooling some of the people ALL of the time certainly applies! An NBA player’s wife. Sure. If you are going to lie why not make it a whopper.
Well said, Ann. Totally agree.
Anya, what’s ipadgate? Is this about Kate’s iPad?
Where are they discussing iPadgate? I thought Kate answered that one weeks ago!
And what’s with the “Bread and Jam for Frances” avatar. What am I missing? (I love Frances.)
I have no reason to apologize. My point was that you shouldn’t forget the past.Even trivial stuff like the Gosselins. If you want REAL fact, look to and read about them from the past.
My sons Paternal Grandmother ran from the Nazis each and every day and she will rarely talk about it.I have friends who have families who went through the horrors of the camps.I do not need you to school me about it. And to be honest, I don’t care if you were offended.Everybody else on the blog understood what I meant…except you. And I’m not surprised. That’s something you tend to do quite often here.
Oh and BTW, I wouldn’t wait for hell to freeze over if I were you. I won’t apologize to you.Case closed and move on.
And BTW (sorry mods) There literally millions and millions of people, most of them young people, who either don’t know what the Holocaust is or never believe that it happened in the first place. Maybe they should, you know, do some research…google among one of them.Then they’d have the real facts. Having facts is important IMO. Some people may want to look into checking the facts.IMO.
Hi sadie! Would you per chance know of a library where I can get only books published today? I hate to read anything older. Yes I could STILL learn from it, and its hard to know where you ‘re going if you don’t know where you came from but still..no knowledge enables a person to fight over words …as TC seems to want to do.
http://gosselinsdonotneedourpity.blogspot.com/2008/08/sound-off-secret-message-board.html
Sadiemay…I’ve been staying out of the sublime, but your exchange puts so much of what is going on into perspective. THANK YOU! Did I say thank you loud enough?
Ann, oh The Bread & Jam for Frances avatar was just a whimsical choice on my part because it always puts a smile on my face and I think we need more of that (especially in this thread sometimes!). I actually have been meaning to change it to something Penn State/Nittany Lions related! 🙂
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I am not sure where else Ipadgate is being discussed. I saw Lily brought it up on Sage’s blog and I jumped in because I just read through the tweet stream of twitter.com/#!/lindafoerrester and LOL at all the “kind” people she was thanking for supporting her. And then I got to the part about her claiming her husband played in the NBA. Why is it all these chicks always have to build their husbands up to be something they are not? Lawyer, NBA player, etc. As if anyone with real success in life would be married to such bitter crazy women.
HB, Thank you for the support. I’m not always good at putting thoughts down. I’ll get back to you if I find any of those published books.
Sadiemay,
Well said, maybe someone needs to learn to read before they speak. Thank you!!
Sadiemay, I ditto what HB said! Thanks for telling it like it is!
Ann, I can’t believe iPadgate is even going on. It’s from back on Sep 21 when Kate tweeted that a faraway friend sent her a belated bd gift of an iPad and the older girl(s) immediately took it over. Linda Foerrester tweeted that she was glad Kate liked it and four more were on the way. The details don’t add up and Lindafoerrester’s account has already been marked as very suspicious since it’s tied to Lancasterwatcher. She’s the one who admonishes Kate to come back to “their” church and was supposedly gifting Kate w/8 bookbags. So, even though Kate twittered to Linda Foerrester and told her she had never received iPads from her, she didn’t know what she was talking about and to please stop, BKIA did a post that Kate grifted an iPad from a fan. It is cut and dry, but they want to muddle it up and pretend to be confused because that’s more fun than just admitting that it was nothing (they make everything so signif) but a friend of Kate’s sending her a present of an iPad.
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Yes, Sage a fun post “What Have You Heard.” Amazing that the khaters are fascinated w/the number of brownies Kate and the twins made.
I did find Linda Foerrester and it’s OBVIOUS she’s as fake as Pennmommy. I read her tweet about how she spelled her name, not quite the right way, because there were “too many Linda Forrester’s on twitter.” Supposedly she had to make up a variant spelling. So I tried to open up an account with that name and Twitter never suggested a brand-new spelling…just adding numbers to the one she should have used, or reverseing the order of the screen name. Why ddin’t these innocent haters check before the believed her? She’s making fools out of them.
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She reminds me a bit of “Far2ManyIdiots” on Twitter. She supposedly was a very invested fan who scolded other fans for responding to haters. She stopped her incessant tweeting when one of the more, dramatic haters faked some drama. In other words, she was distracted by some other games she was playing. They are all the same person, most likely.
I’ve been reading the old messages from GDNNOP … thanks for the link, Bloghawg… and what really pops out at me is how long this witch hunt against Kate has been going on… We’re talking about four years! I don’t know how anyone, thick skinned or not, could put up with the amount of hysteria and untruth told about them for that long. It boggles the mind!
As with Ipadgate, what also boggles the mind is that most of their assertions are based on bold faced lies! I’m an old woman and I have never seen or heard of people who have acted like this… and in public, no less! Do you think anyone or anything will EVER stop them, short of KG losing her children and moving to a 1BR apartment?
Sadiemay says:
October 10, 2011 at 11:06 am
Well, if you’re not interested in proof, stop asking for it from people on this blog.:)
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YES YES YES!!!
BlogHawg – Thanks for posting the link in #251. Took a while to read all the comments but they were very interesting. I’ll have to read link in #307 tomorrow.
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Sadiemay – I agree with HB, snickers and Judy. Well said and so glad you addressed the accusations.
Why do I get the feeling you are telling me I don;t know anything about the holocaust? That I should read up on it? I didn’t expect you to apologize to me. Like I said, I got your analogy, that doesn’t mean I have to like it. Of course you don’t understand my offense to this, you don’t know me. That is why when a blog uses off color jokes to be “funny” but, end up looking like a racist, it is offensive and really sick. (Not saying that happened on this blog) or even uses that terrible moment in history to make an analogy to a reality tv program.
I get emotional about it because it directly affected my family line and I may have over reacted to what looked like a comparison to a tv show.
Just shows how easy it is to misconstrue a comment or action.
TCparra says:
October 10, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Why do I get the feeling you are telling me I don;t know anything about the holocaust?
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You missed the point again. What we’re saying is if you have questions…and you always do…on some Gosselin story, you should go and check into it instead of asking someone else to do it for you. Just say “You know what, I don’t know about this story, let me check into it and I’ll get back to with my opinion.” Simple as that. That way it can be a healthy debate.
That’s why it’s always a good thing to research things, even from the past.Plus it makes you good at Trivial Pursuit! lol
i have to say that TCParra has truly spoiled my pleasure reading this blog. she justn “niggles” everything to death. wish it would occur to her that a conversation would be so much more acceptable than the constant, over and over. my relatives are not too pleased for me to try to discuss(it takes two to know whats going on) the Gosselins so guess what, i don’t “talk” about them. TC is missing an opportunity to discuss the G’S, INSTEAD SHE seems Hellbent on going “round and round. how sad
Just finished reading the links BlogHawg posted. I was amazed that in three years the only thing that has changed is GWOP is no longer the biggest hate site. The haters are still lying, stalking and dissecting everything Kate does and says. Also they are still telling support blogs what should be discussed on their sites, claim they are being attacked when their opinion is challenged, and say you are not running your blog as your intention states (reminds me of Sage’s naysayers who started a hate blog against her posters).
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I really enjoyed nomoredrama and Guinevere’s (Jennie) spunky posts! Who is nomoredrama?
Uh-oh Ruth. Your words just might make tc run to that hate blog she loves and drop the f bomb and call you a lesbian.
Ann #320 Just out of curiosity I did something similar and tried to see if this Linda was lying by doing a search of the name and guess what? There wasn’t anyone on Twitter who was even close to using the same name. It seems that her lies might have caught up with her. To think anyone would be fool enough to believe her in the first place makes me wonder how can people be that ignorant. If people would just use their heads and realize that people just don’t send a stranger, a very expensive item like an IPad let alone more she claimed she was sending. Just a hater trying to make Kate look like a grifter is all that is.
Unfortunately Ruth I feel the same way. There is a difference between a “discussion” and just Internet vigilantism and IMHO that is where one particular person fits in more appropriately then “discussion.” As they say to each their own but I’m not too fond of that behavior.
GeeWhiz you too? Yep that seems to be a very familiar phrase used for some of us. LOL
Ruth I got a kick out of your “niggles” term. I have to remember that one. LOL I also agree with you but she is free to have her “opinions”.
@#321 AMEN, SISTA!
Gee Whiz,
Nomoredrama is Erin from Imperfect Women. She decided long ago to not be involved in the Gosselin blogging world for a variety of reasons but she is still a part of our group and we still keep in daily contact.
Was there a rumor going around that Kate really did not go to the Emmys? I can’t quite remember. I know she tweeted that she went and I think there were people out there that said she way lying?
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There is a really nice interview with Fountains of Wayne’s Adam Schlesinger and he talks about being at an after party at the Emmys and sitting next to Kate Gosselin. He said he had no idea who she was.
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“Did you meet anybody cool at the Emmys?
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After the Emmys, there’s this ball/dinner, which is like a prom except everybody in the room is super-famous. I was sitting with David, and the only other person at the table was Kate Gosselin. And I had no idea who she was!”
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http://www.sfexaminer.com/entertainment/music/2011/10/fountains-wayne-s-adam-schlesinger-stays-busy
Geewhiz, I don’t think I’ve ever been called “spunky” before – thank you!
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Ann, OTOH, called me “sensible” – it makes me sound like orthopedic shoes! Oh, well, knowing Ann, “sensible” is actually high praise, so thank you too, Ann!
I don’t comment on the Gosselin stuff as much as a I used to (it moves so fast!), but I wish that if people didn’t like a person’s posts, they would just skip them. It’s not hard to do (well, it requires some self-control, I will say, speaking from experience – but it can be done).
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I don’t like the habit of talking about someone like they aren’t here. JMO.
Oh, and Linda Foerrester, Basketball Wife and Bestower of iPads, is a Phoney McPhoneyson. Sheesh. These folks don’t even try anymore! In my day, a hater went to some trouble to concoct a plausible story before trying to defame Kate. Also, I had to walk 10 miles uphill to AND from school.
Twtr_is_4_Twits: RT “@squeaksb my bro in law is uncle Kevin from the biotch Kate gosselin …..she is a real c$nt!$!! Met her disgusting a$$!!!”
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There’s a sucker born every minute
As far as I’m concerned, anyone who uses that kind of language, whether online or in person, defines themself to me… They are not the kind of people I care to be around.
Marnie #332 I had to laugh when I saw that tweet by Twtr_is_4_Twits because it was so obvious that the tweet was made up. The “language” alone clearly showed where it originated, and you’re right there is a sucker born every minute. That’s the one thing that has amazed me in the Gosselin world is the sheer number of fake stories that are made up in someone’s mind. Even more amazing is that there are that many “fools” who believe it. The vast majority of people don’t even know that “Gosselin” blogs exist and yet somehow and here is a few examples like a stewardess,a waiter, handyman, a school parent, etc. would somehow run straight to a hate blog to give testimony as to Kate’s “bad behavior”. Another comical premise is that they are all over the top negative and not one single complimentary “sighting” or “interaction”. Of course they are always from an “unnamed” source. Yet when someone in the media or person’s interviewed by the media are asked how they liked Kate and what kind of person she is, the vast majority are very complimentary and they say she is very nice and quite funny and not what they expected. They are surprised because the rag magazines have painted her as if she was some kind of monster. There have been a number of people interviewed that is what they expected they would see and yet upon actually meeting Kate they found her to be very pleasant, easy to talk to and quite a few have mentioned she is very funny and witty. Sorry but I just can’t buy into any of these hate blogs “revelations” because I seriously doubt the vast majority of the population even know these blogs exist.
I do not even know how I ended up here, but I thought this post was good.
I don’t know who you are but definitely you’re going to a famous blogger
if you aren’t already 😉 Cheers!