By Pam
Kate Gosselin has her own blog now and she is using it set the record straight on the latest rumor. Recently a trashy publication name HollyBitchyBaby has reported two rumors regarding Kate Gosselin.
Last week they reported that Kate was jealous of her ex-husband Jon Gosselin’s girlfriend, Ellen Ross. In their most recent article they reported that, “Kate has been set up on many blind dates,” a source tells us. “But finally one guy has caught her eye. He’s not in showbiz but she met him at an event. The two have been quietly seeing each other but she hasn’t introduced him to the kids.”
Kate took to her blog and wrote:
Rumor has it that I have a “new boyfriend” that I’ve been seeing “secretly,” that I am keeping quiet and haven’t introduced to my kids yet.
Fact is: Unless my running shoes, kitchen utensils, or wrapping paper are considered “dates,” I have not been on any dates and certainly no “blind dates” set up by friends…. Sorry Hollybaby, you lack credibility and are lying, as usual. Once again, if you read something about me (or most other people in the media) in a tabloid where information has been provided by an unnamed “source” you can assume it to be completely fabricated and totally false.
I guess this publication will now need to revert back to the “she is secretly seeing her bodyguard” nonsense.
On Twitter, someone asked her about the story regarding Jon’s current girlfriend and she responded, “ha. Another made up story… Can’t address them all… I leave the 1s like these alone that are very obviously false!”
Kate also has a new blog post up at CouponCabin. She discusses how this year she will start a new tradition in her family and have their big Christmas holiday meal on Christmas Eve before they attend services. This will save her time and energy on Christmas Day and allow her more time to enjoy with her family!
Here is wishing a big Imperfect Women Merry Christmas to the Gosselin family this season!
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Shoot, I was kind of hoping that she was dating someone.
Lily, I agree…& in a way, I’m sure Ms. Gosselin does too. Bonnie Fuller must be one of the laziest HuffPost talents on staff. It would be fun to see what her Rolodex reveals as ‘sources’! ;0)
I also was hoping Kate was dating someone. Love that she is setting the record straight on most rumors. Kate was married to Jon for 10 years and that is behind her. I don’t think she will ever be jealous of anyone Jon dates.
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I hope the kids have a wonderful Christmas at both Kate and Jon’s.
Well, at least we know she reads all the sites, even the ones who make up crap about her. I think it is getting a little sleazy when HB posts a story and it’s debunked before the “ink dries”. I wonder if HB really cares how stupid her stories are starting to look? She should start naming her “sources” if she wants people to consider her stories anything other than fiction.
I didn’t believe the story, but I so would like to see Kate happy with someone special in her life. And I’ll believe when she says it.
It is human nature to want to know what people are saying about you. I am not so sure that Kate reads all the sites. Quite a bit of stuff is emailed and tweeted to her.
The question was tweeted to Kate and she asked where they read that. I don’t know if Kate reads at any sites, but hope she reads here. 🙂 I think TC should reveal her sources and if it’s her, let us know.
Ok, off topic…..the video of the day and the survey question….LOVE IT!!!! A local theater near me is showing “A Charlie Brown Christmas” and then “National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation” tomorrow night and both movies are FREE FREE FREE!!! I am soooooo there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On topic……I am very glad to see Kate PUBLICALLY calling out Hollybaby. I think I will dance like Snoopy!!!!!!!!!!
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I am the little girl in the pink, oblivious to anyone watching me. 😉
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I wish I could go with you. I love both of those.
Pam
Last week this local theater had a jazz/swing band called “The Flat Cats” play for about an hour, then they showed “A Christmas Story” and again, it was all FREE! The band ROCKED!!!!! and of course the movie was great too. And, the theater trotted out one of their newest concession stand treats….BACON POPCORN! I didn’t try it though, maybe tomorrrow night.
Whimsical video of the day is just great. Let my kids view it and they have been dancing until worn out today.
When dancing the purpose is not to get from one spot on the floor to another, it is to enjoy each step in getting there. Hope you all dance.
Maybe I’ll pop in Christmas Vacation to lift my spirits. Anyone else have the long-night blues?
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So sorry Kate isn’t dating a special someone. 🙁
Ann I’m still at work trying to get finished up. Then I get to go home to a dog, cat, and 4 bunnies who will all be wanting something to eat….NOW!! LOL LOL LOL Only the dog will want lovins and cuddles from me and he’s a yellow lab so he’s a little difficult to cuddle. LOL LOL LOL Pop in Christmas Vacation…..and have a wonderful evening!!
Thanks for the Christmas lights and music, I am having a hard time getting in the Christmas spirit this year,this definitely made me smile!
Your welcome carol! Imperfect Women was a little late in getting their lights up this year.
I blame it on Lily or maybe it was Ann but we couldn’t find the ladder. 😉
Nice touch ladies, the music and lights about gave me a heart attack when I clicked on. LOL.
Snicker, LOL. We wouldn’t want that. I even had the background changed to green for a bit but I thought people would think that they went to the wrong house. 😉
It was Ann’s fault. She had the ladder last. #Iswearit’strue 😉
Love your decorations. Very nice touch.
I too, am disappointed that Kate is not seeing someone. Hope that changes for her in the new year.
I guess I can say that unlike Bonnie Fuller whose unnamed source is a voice in her head mine is a real person and, so far correct. 🙂
Love the snow and lights!
If you log in on the home page you are greeted by two snow people wishing you a Merry Christmas!
Happy Holidays to all the Imperfect Women and MEN out there.
LOVE LOVE LOVE the Merry Christmas greeting I got this morning! Merry Christmas to all the IW out there! Best wishes for a wonderful new year!
Voices in one’s head or sources that only a “select few” know exist that is “real”, sounds the same to me.
“Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.” The Santa Clause.
love the lights! don’t see snow or hear music! lol
i was hoping this was true too
Wow TC! Have some Rum & Eggnog and lighten up. It’s Christmas!
I must say, I like your integrity to not STEAL photos and use them on your site like a couple fan sites have done. Everyone talks about 15mins as a vile Hate site, yet the admins at a couple blogs decided they would use some of the pics (taken by a local photographer and used with permission) she posted. At least one of the sites did give name credit.
Hi TCparra and Merry Christmas!
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If you are talking about Sage, she does have permission. I actually read the email giving her permission. The photographer seems very nice and does beautiful work. You should take a look at his website. Other than Sage, I have no idea who you are talking about.
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Also, the photographer said in his email that you do not have to have permission for pictures taken off Twitter as long as you give credit. I think I might have read that somewhere also but I would have to look it up.
Your qualifiers for what makes a vile and hateful site are very interesting.
This is his website http://www.berkscountyphotography.com/#
Pam, he was emailing admin @ BL. Those weren’t on twitter. According to her, those pics were provided to her in an email and she was given permission. If Sage got an email why would she respond this way:
“Sage said…
The BL and some of the ladies and I use that word loosely are wringing their hankies that I have pictures up of Kate taken by Shawn from BerksCountyphotography.com.
Becks, tsk, tsk. Did you ask permission from the young girls who were filmed on your porn site to sell video subscriptions for 19.95?”
Why wouldn’t she simply say: “Photos with permission by …”? and why would there be a need to show you this “email”?
What do you mean about the qualifiers? All the fan sites say 15mins is a hate site that is vile. Are you saying you don;t consider her site a hate site?
First of all, there were two pictures up on Twitter. I saw them with my own eyes. He said in the email that he pulled them because of all of the hate tweeted to him.
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Secondly, you would have to ask Sage about that. But I read the email. I just went back and re-read it and he said he pulled the pics because of the hate tweeted towards him.
He also said he researched copyright laws and that Twitter pictures do not fall under the copyright laws as long as you give credit. I remember that from when I pulled a Twitter picture.
I also think this man should be left alone and a big deal should not be made out of this. This is ridiculous just like the Red Cross fiasco.
Your statement:
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Everyone talks about 15mins as a vile Hate site, yet the admins at a couple blogs decided they would use some of the pics (taken by a local photographer and used with permission) she posted. At least one of the sites did give name credit.
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Makes it appear to me that you are saying the sites that did not ask permission are vile and hateful. That is why I made my #32 comment.
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Again, Merry Christmas!
Well, that’s that I guess. I think Sage should publish this “email”, because otherwise it appears as if she is like BM and simply “lifted” the photos and sucked you into her little game. You say there was an email, not sure why you would have to see it, unless that makes it easier to fool people by her asking you to say that. It is a big deal (for those thinking it’s not), copyright infringement is not a “small” thing.
Pam, what I meant by that comment is that all the fans site accuse 15mins of being a hate site. However, the photos she has up were good enough that some fans site felt they could “lift” them. I don’t twitter and could care less that he took shots of Kate and would never feel the need to “hate” on this guy (again that is a bunch of foolish people with way too much time on their hands). The photos are nicely done.
I think I will email this guy and ask him if he gave permission for his photos to be used all over the web.
Stop with your nonsense. No one sucked me into any game. Sage is my friend. We share quite a bit with each other.
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You came here and commented and I responded with accurate information. Why are you trying to make this into something that it is not? I see why people say you call others liars because that certainly is what it feels like.
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If Sage posted the pictures and did not get his permission I would have said that. She very well have might have gotten his permission after the fact. I will ask her,but the bottom line is that she got it.
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Again research the laws, no one violated copyright laws. Shawn said so himself in the email. He researched it and photos posted on Twitter don’t fall under that law.
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Many, many people saw the pictures on Twitter. How do you think the BL saw them. In fact, I tweeted to the man.
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Go look at IW’s timeline
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@Berksphoto @Kateplusmy8 That is a beautiful picture!
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Pam, in my comment I pasted what sage said about the people responding to the photos, you didn’t publish that comment. Her response wasn’t something that people who have permission say. Sorry if it sounded like I was calling you a liar, but there is just is too many of these “I saw it, so you have to believe it” replies (not just here, but at other blogs as well and not just these photos either).
The BL said she got permission from the photographer in email exchanges. She didn’t mention twitter as her source.
I guess if I had a blog and people accused me of “making stuff up” (for whatever), I would probably back up my info with some “proof”. I may be wrong, but it just seems like the validity of stories would look a lot less like gossip and more like factual stories. (again, not just this blog either).
“Pam, in my comment I pasted what sage said about the people responding to the photos, you didn’t publish that comment.”
What didn’t I publish. I posted everything you have said.
“The BL said she got permission from the photographer in email exchanges. She didn’t mention twitter as her source. “.
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Why are you not over at her site demanding that she publish her email?
That is the big question. Only here you don’t believe.
Maybe Sage doesn’t care about it. I know I don’t. I don’t respond to most criticism aimed at me and I don’t feel the need to defend myself. Today, I was defending Sage because I saw the letter.
And because you brought it up. Here at IW. If you hadn’t brought this up, I would not have given any of it a second thought and I guess Sage would not have either. Not everyone lives and breathes what the “Great BL” says and not everyone cares.
You know Pam, the day is to nice and the season is stressful enough without me adding to the “rumor or gossip” trail. Let me just apologize and say I don’t care either. Not really feeling like a “copyright” police woman so I don’t know why I even bothered to add my $.02 on this (other than when I read Sages reply about the photos which really sounded ridiculous and I originally complimented this site for not “lifting” the photos to use. Have a great day!
Another topic of discussion. I thought I read where Kate said the kids only get one present each, yet she tweets that she is wrapping the kids presents non stop (for days upon days if you believe every word she types). So, why would she be so “exhausted” if the present count was supposed to be low?
I agree. And again, Merry Christmas and or Happy Holidays.
Kate also said that she filled her kids stockings with loads of little presents. Maybe there are just getting one big present each… Why does it matter HOW many presents she wrapped. Something as harmless as wrapping gifts for a large family should not make one iota of difference to anyone except the one who is doing the wrapping.
TC, I have permission from Shawn to publish the pictures. I didn’t lift them from the BL. LOL He is a very nice guy and stated he never watched Kate’s show and really had no opinion about it. I do not publish any private emails that I have with people.
I believe it was Hollybaby or one of those that said Kate was only buying one present for each child. I think we all have seen that they are not to be believed on anything.
TC, in the future if you have any criticism or questions about my site or me I would prefer that you address them to me and not here. You can put your questions on my blog or email me. I don’t bite…really.
I wish Seasons Best to you!
~Sage
Hollybaby…who is batting ZERO w. her ‘sources close to the Gosselin family’…was the one who wrote that Kate could only afford one gift for each child this year…ending w. hopes that Jon will be more giving to make up for Kate’s thriftiness. Does Bonnie Fuller have any credibility left. Of course Kate is the Grinch that stole Christmas…& those who are so NOT into Kate…believe Bonnie’s total lack of tabloid fair play.
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‘KATE did NOT SAY’… Bonnie Fuller did. At least give credit, where credit is due!
tc – Sage posted the pictures on December 18th. Your idol BL posted her story December 19th so it looks like she may have seen the pictures at Sage’s.
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Since it was proven your idol sells fetish birth vidoes it seems you are trying to discredit the support sites. IW and Sage have proven they are honest and trust worthy so please give it up. Thanks and Merry Christmas.
Someone here must not have family to have Christmas with, so Merry Christmas TC.
Merry Christmas to all at IW!
Why are you not over at her site demanding that she publish her email?
That is the big question. Only here you don’t believe.
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I’d sure like to see this answered
Merry Christmas!
Hope you all have a memorable day.
Hope everyone had a joyous holiday! I feel like I really need to say something about the way this blog ,it’s moderators and Sage’s integrety are being attacked and repeatedly questioned by a poster on here. It is rude and disrespectful and without any merit what-so-ever. Anything written at a hate site is gospel but anything here or at Sage’s requires writtwn and notarized proof. There has never beeen one shred of eveidence that thsi site or Sage’s site has ever been anything but factual and honest. That certainly is not the case at the sites that thsi poster so highly regards. I will not mention by name who this poster is because I have zero respect for anything she/he has to say. I’m sure I will be a target of this person now but right is right and wrong is wrong,and accusing honest people of dishonesty really pisses me off.
Hi carol, I had a really nice holiday. Hope you all did to. I shared a little bit about mine here https://imperfectwomen.com/la-laker-vs-chicago-bulls-my-slightly-different-christmas/ and I hope you all share a little about yours on this thread also –
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Thank you Carol for your support. I agree with you that there appears to be different standards set for different sites.
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Thank you, Carol, for stating what many of us are thinking. This double standard is beyond ridiculous.
Add my Amen to Carol’s and Judy’s about the double standard for these Gosselin sites.
Sage is honest. The BL? She’s often wrong about facts and certainly dishonest about her motives or true opinions. We have seen that recently in exposing her secret blogging interests.
I also read the email from this photographer. The BL “interpreted” his opinion dishonestly, IMO. But I expect that. That’s a hater thing.
Yes, the BL runs a hate site. No doubt about that. If that’s not a hate site, what is?
I had no idea that the haters were in such a uproar over the pictures Sage posted.
OMG ~They will find anything to pick apart~ Haters are savages ~ what they start out picking on becomes unrecognizable.
It is pathetic and deplorable that they attacked that photographer.
CoCoPuff –
I don’t understand how they can be smart enough to sign on to a computer but so dumb as to believe whatever they see written online. They are fast becoming an internet punchline. They = people that believe a tweet without seeing it in twitter. They = people that believe a blogger without googling the information. They = people that think anyone cares what think.
I can’t tell you how embarrassed I would be to find out I had someone in my social circle that actually bothered someone like the photographer. I would actually take time to write an apology about how stupid my acquaintance was acting.
Agreed Marie,
They were even hating and attacking on Christmas as well ~UNREAL!
If they had anyone in their life they would of stepped in by now ~
For many hating is all they have.
The epitome of foul-mouthed hate comes from Preesi’s, and Christmas is no exception. These are the people who consider themselves the “gold standard” of haters… They are the worst… bar none!
If they are the same or worse than 2 years ago, Judy, then I’ll agree with that. Imagine getting an award for foul-mouthed hating on the Internet. Sad.
Ann, They are probably worse… Just plain obscene.
tc parra: i believe that if you want to be accurate you will go read where kate was describing their Christmas morning RITUAL where “each child” gets one gift to open, kate says go and they tear into the gift at the same time, when the first gift to the 8 is finished THEN each of the eight get another ONE GIFT to open until all the ONE GIFTS ARE OPEN. a perfect example of how one can read part of a sentence and come up with the wrong interpretation of the whole. having just read all the challenges to blogs included in yourn posts, i would really like to know when you get your blog set upthen we can read you and know the REAL story just as surely as the publisher of each blog avers that they are real and accurate when there are a few, like you that questions the accuracy of anything on a pro kate or a neutral site says!!! don’t you know most readers decide who and what they believe that they read. and don’t really feel they need to challenge a blog site. like the one gift example, obviously we all look for what we want to believe.
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TP does not go to places to verify someone’s statement. You need to go to those places and then provide TP a link. Then it is important to explain what you are linking to. Once you give TP all of that they will move on to their next horror about Kate. Rinse and repeat.
You guys get upset with me for saying a few things. I did apologize (comment 48) to Pam and said good day. So lets talk about the dirty side of the Fan Blogs.
I’d like (if Pam will allow) your opinion on a fan blog that seems to think they have the down low on Ellen and her “illegal” use of the Gosselin Kids. I would say this blog owner is downright delusional in her attempts to bring Ellen down and show the “world” how terrible and unethical Ellen is. Now I know how coco feels, how about the rest? You can guess the idiotic blog, just think last letter of the alphabet.
Notice how I didn’t even mention this blogs name and her, cough, cough, “daughter”. This blog is the exact thing she claims she isn’t: A HATE BLOG. I guess when things get boring in the Gosselin blogging world, it’s easier to start looking for things to be hateful and mean about in Jon’s life. This is the same blog that compared in side by side pictures Ellen and Kate. Talk about hateful and catty. In fact this blog is still catty and hateful. I have never seen Ellen do or say ANYTHING about the delusional blog or it’s owner.
I love, TCparra, that we really can only talk about issues you want to, LOL. I will pass on this one because I haven’t read it so therefore I can not have an opinion on it. I have no idea what you are talking about and I don’t think I want to.
Based on your comments, I will say that I have only been to Ellen’s blog a couple of times and it looked like she was doing a nice job with it. I did not see anything there that I would say is “illegal” and I wish her well with her blog and her life and I do think people should move on when it comes to Ellen.
Just like I think the BL and others should move on when it comes to Kate.
Pam,
It’s really a non-issue what what she is talking about. Grifting for Ellen’s boyfriends kids was discussed. Is Ellen using the Jon’s kids, who knows or cares. Jon can explain to his kids about all of this when they are older. Seems to be a schumcky day for some people. 🙂
Well, I did say if Pam will allow. LOL.
Snickers if it was a non issue, you still made sure you added your $.02 about what the delusional blog was saying. If Ellen is “grifting” then every blog out there in the free world is grifting if they get free products for doing reviews. I’m having a great day, so if your day is “schumcky” then so sorry to hear that.
Apples and oranges, although some will never see it that way. Nothing on that other blog even comes close to what the hate blogs say and do about Kate. Nothing.
Pam, in a nutshell the KNOW it all fan blog seems to think that Ellen should be arrested or sued or tarred and feathered because Ellen used the words “my boyfriend and his kids” in a review and now the world should come to a screeching stop because that is “illegal”. The haters are accused of a lot of things, mostly making stuff up to suit their twisted sense of knowing what is right in the Gosselin world. Well, the fan blog has now taken the crown on making stuff up to support wild and zany theories.
Apples and Oranges? Wow. So I guess it’s OK to push the limit on stupidity and made up BS, because the haters do it and the fans will never reach that level of hate, no matter what they say? That is called “Stinkin Thinkin”
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Not all fans think every pro thing written about Kate and her children is right. Take your issue to that blog. IW has nothing to do with what you are talking about. No, my day is wonderful, you need to stop involving IW with YOUR issues.
I haven’t read at the other blog since last week, but I agree with Snickers….TC take your “discussion” to that blog, why don’t you??
Well, the fan blog has now taken the crown on making stuff up to support wild and zany theories. ~ tcparra
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Once again your hatred for a blog owner is showing. Nothing was made up. Ellen did a review on a “Responsibility Kit” and said “This was great and made it so much easier for my boyfriend’s kids to enjoy doing chores and learning about responsbilities that they should do on a daily basis (brushing teeth, etc.) . It is so fun to get organized without having to figure out where to start. This kit puts it all their for you.”
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Although she did not use their names everyone knows her boyfriend is Jon, who insisted he wants privacy for his kids. Bottom line she IS USING the Gosselin kids. They ARE NOT her kids and it IS NOT her place to do this. Period. THE END.
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Your idol BL will always “take the crown on making stuff up to support wild and zany theories”.
Snickers, do you own this blog? crickets…. crickets…. If you don’t like what is said here then I suggest you move along. If Pam doesn’t like it then it wouldn’t be published. So why waste your time whining about what I say? Nuff said.
Last time to say this, ok? I don’t choose to comment there since even if I did have an “account” I know it would be blocked and again, if Pam didn’t like what I am bringing up she wouldn’t publish my comments.
Sorry I answered her Pam. I think snickers and Kmom2 are right. Please delete my comment. TC is not here to debate she is here to cause trouble. I will put her back on ignore.
Gee Whiz,
I guess TC feels it’s always IW’s fault if another blog or aticle is wriiten about Ellen, so she comes here to whine. It’s a non issue for IW, but TC spins it so it looks like Kate had something to do with this again. She can post her concerns on both blogs, or open her own blog to complain on. Maybe Ellen has a new man in her life who has kids. See how easy that is to twist the subject. LOL.
My idol? That is funny! Just as you say Kate isn’t your idol, the admin at 15mins isn’t my idol either. I, like a lot of fans, only try showing the other side of the coin when debating something. The fact that most fans don’t like 15mins and the admin isn’t lost on me when I make comments in “support” of her.
Geewhiz, what Ellen did is not illegal or crossing any line. Unless you are using invisible ink or fonts, there is no mention of the Gosselin kids names or even Jon’s name in any review. Just because you think the entire world knows the Gosselin clan doesn’t mean they do. I would say that is a very huge stretch of the imagination to say she is doing anything worthy of suing. In fact, why don’t you tweet Kate (I’m sure there a few who have already) and ask her how she feels about that rather than be a busybody and concern yourself where you don’t belong? The nerve to accuse people of Photo shopping as if that is unheard of or something that Kate would never do. Ha Ha. But I’m not saying anything about Kate because this is about a idiotic blog and it’s owner. Period. The end.
I’m causing trouble how? Who is getting hurt here? Pam allowed the topic and nobody can handle that.
How in the world do I blame IW for something a blog writes about? Where do you get that I am blaming Kate for ANYTHING, my gawd. Open your eyes. Another cup of coffee maybe? I didn’t mention Kates name at all regarding the BS the blog made up.
I came here and brought up the subject. I think even fan blogs deserve a laugh or two when seeing how “out there” some fan blogs get in their efforts to create a storm of nothingness to bring their comment count up.
Pam, I will leave that blog and its ridiculous topic alone after this comment. Thanks for allowing me to comment and get some feedback.
Snickers, do you own this blog? crickets…. crickets…. If you don’t like what is said here then I suggest you move along.
Please stay, snickers. You are a valued contributor.
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If Pam doesn’t like it then it wouldn’t be published.
Um, Pam is a free-speech-but-use-your-manners advocate. Please don’t assume she “likes” everything that is written.
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So why waste your time whining about what I say? Nuff said. Whining or challenging?
Snickers often expresses exasepreation that I share. Just saying.
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Last time to say this, ok? I don’t choose to comment there since even if I did have an “account” I know it would be blocked and again, if Pam didn’t like what I am bringing up she wouldn’t publish my comments.
Let’s let Pam say what she likes and doesn’t like, OK?
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Let’s debate the finer points of Gosselin-watching without the personal stuff, please.
All blog owners have the right to run their blogs as they want to. I am not telling anyone anything new here, I know. And people have the right to criticize them.
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Tcparra, I don’t really want to discussion to go any farther about the “other blog” here for a variety of reasons. I do believe that it is your right to voice your opinion about it and you did.
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Personally, I really don’t see anything wrong with what was described in comment 83. That is my opinion. Jon is the parent also and as long as he was aware of what Ellen wrote, all is good in my mind. I doubt very much that Kate would be upset by that. She has bigger issues to concern herself with and I think she is moving on and moving forward.
Ok, tcparra, I am going to keep you to that. 😉
I don’t mean to imply that Pam “likes” what I am posting because she allows it through. I mean that Pam isn’t opposed to some discussion about the topic and therefore she allows if to be published.
I am not opposed to some discussion. We have always said that on all of our threads. I am not sure if some are aware of it but we had some good debate and discussion on both the interviews with Jenny and Bryan Masche from both supporters and non supporters of both. We also have the same on some of our political threads as well as other threads. I can never justify in my head to not allow that same type of discussion on the Gosselin stuff. We have done that from the beginning. What makes it right for us does not make it wrong for someone else. What makes it right for another blog does not make it wrong for Imperfect Women.
I also wanted to say that Ziggy has as much right to post her opinion about issues as the BL does. You might not agree with Ziggy, tcparra, but she has every right to discuss issues she feels are important and if you support BL’s right than you have to support Ziggy’s right also.
tc here i go again trying to react (not respond) to your continuing and continuing post that seem to want to start in reality a shouting match with other posters, not a discussion. and it really “hits the fan with me” when after a continual ya ya toward a poster first you bring pam into it as approving instead of allowing your posts to go through which i believe she allows most post to go through unless there’s obscenities or other undesirable things that foul up the blog, not editing points of view. but whenever you get to a point you then tell the other one you’ve been debating? if you don’t like it move on. you’d have a better chance of making brownie points with me if you didn’t always in my opinion resort to “if you don’t agree with me ” not “i’m going to take my dolls and go home” but “since you don’t agree with me, you take your dolls and go home” maybe youcould monitor your posts and tolerate those of us who have an opinion different from yours.
TC,
No way would I ever leave the lovely ladies of IW because you are uncomfortable with what is said back to you. Making an account on another blog is a lame excuse to bring YOUR issues here. Have a great day!! :))))
Pam, I’ll behave. (snicker)!!
No way would I ever leave the lovely ladies of IW because you are uncomfortable with what is said back to you. ~Snickers
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Good to hear. I’d hate to have to track you down. I want to see how your next garden grows. 🙂
I think we are having an Imperfect Women picnic at snicker’s place next summer? Everyone have their flights booked? 😉
Ruth, why don’t you speak in plain English? continual ya ya? Did you see where I said that I didn’t mean Pam “liked” my comments, but that she allowed them to be posted so those that have issue with my comments, can just continue to have issues because I won’t stop feeling how I do.
Why, oh why would I be concerned with making browine points with you?
Snickers, I love how you twist something YOU say and make it sound like I am confused or I said it. You are telling me to leave and stop bringing up certain topics and I tell you to leave if you don’t like it. How do you interpret that into “I don’t like what is said back to me”?
Pam, then if you feel that way that makes Z a hater just as much as the BL. At least the BL doesn’t take someone from Kates life and turn them into a post about nothing and try to rally everyone to join in on the ridiculous opinions. But, I said I wouldn’t continue on the Z bashing.
snickers –
The interesting thing to me is that it is not about agreeing or disagreeing with any one particular poster. It is that one poster never lets there be a discussion. It is constant question, question, always looking for a response to a negative statement. Never bringing anything new or insightful into the discussion. Demanding answers and never answering. Demanding documentation and never documenting. It always seems to put things off the rails. Have you EVER see a statement from TP on what they think? It’s always inferred. It’s usually questioning how someone else thinks. It’s not something I find informative about the subject nor about the poster. So it’s just not productive.
Sad…….Sage is leaving. I hope these twisted, sick, animals get what’s coming to them someday.
Snickers, I hate to burst your bubble, but I really have no problem with what people say to “back to me”. It’s the constant request by a few (mostly you) for me to leave and take my opinions somewhere else that is irritating when these people/you don’t own this blog.
KMom, Me, too. Their idiocacy has gone too long. It’s time they are exposed for what they are.
I just read Sage’s goodbye message. I don’t know what people are doing or saying that hurt to the bone like this and I send a heartfelt & sincere expression of sadness that you were hurt. I may have my opinions that are despised by most here, but I don’t condone any “outing” or posting of personal info when not authorized. I hope Sage feels better and shame on the person(s) who did that to her.
Kmom2 –
I’m a firm believer in karma. Remember the young girl that committed suicide over bullying? She was an Irish immigrant. Well, not but a year or so later, one of the bullies that was convicted was on a morning show crying and carrying on. Turns out she wasn’t really a bully. She was just helping a friend. And now people were being mean to her and teasing her. The universe has a way bringing negative things to negative people. It’s like that book, The Secret, only with negative coming from negative. It’s not something I would like to have hanging over my head.
Pam says…Jon is the parent also and as long as he was aware of what Ellen wrote, all is good in my mind. I doubt very much that Kate would be upset by that. She has bigger issues to concern herself with and I think she is moving on and moving forward.
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Agree, I haven’t weighed in in a while on a Gosselin thread, but I find it hard not to offer my opinion.
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Some of what is written about Jon & Ellen by a few pro-Kate commentators smacks of the same ugly, know-it-all judgmental crap that has been directed at Kate for years. It is nitpicky, unfair and frequently absurd. Just because I support Kate’s right to live her life and raise her children as she sees fit does not mean I condone this BS.
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And yes, I am angry and sad today so I’m probably not expressing myself as delicately and skillfully as I would like. I have seen a lot of bad behavior over the last few years of Gosselin blogging, but what was done to Sage and her family is perhaps the worst.
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The words of Josephy Nye Welch directed to Joseph McCarthy come to mind at this time:
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“You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”
Sage didn’t deserve what they did. All because of their hate over Kate Gosselin. Some people aren’t right in the head.
Thank you all for your kind words. Anya, I had forgotten that quote but it sure is appropriate. This has all gone to far. Someone emailed me today how it is a cancer that is spreading.
TCparra, we have disagreed….but you have shown me that not all anti Kate people are haters. I needed that reminder today. Thank you for your heartfelt words.
Sage, I am just sick over this. I have always loved your blog.You have never done anything to deserve this. I am so sorry,and I am so sickened by the actions of these people. They truly have no life. I believe it is their mission to shut down all blogs that stand up against the hatred and they are succeeding because unlike them we actually have lives and families that come first. Good luck to you and enjoy all the wonderful family moments that will be yours in 2012.
Sage, I read at your blog. I’m so sorry that these people have done this to you! I feel ill and I don’t even know you!
very sad about what was done to sage and her family…but not surprised. having seen the horrible hate in regards to anything that has to do with kate i find it not surprising that the hate for kate has spilled over onto sage.
it’s vile and hurtful and should never have happened. sage i hope you keep in touch with those who appreciate and hold you in high regard.
I’m sad and angry too. Sage, you will be sorely missed. I had no doubt you would put your family before your blogging. It’s what separates the good from the bad and the ugly.
TCparra says:
December 27, 2011 at 8:09 am
Pam, in a nutshell the KNOW it all fan blog seems to think that Ellen should be arrested or sued or tarred and feathered because Ellen used the words “my boyfriend and his kids” in a review and now the world should come to a screeching stop because that is “illegal”. The haters are accused of a lot of things, mostly making stuff up to suit their twisted sense of knowing what is right in the Gosselin world. Well, the fan blog has now taken the crown on making stuff up to support wild and zany theories.
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Last time to say this, ok? I don’t choose to comment there since even if I did have an “account” I know it would be blocked and again, if Pam didn’t like what I am bringing up she wouldn’t publish my comments.
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oh for the love of pete! You just admitted that you are blocked from there, but want us to believe you don’t have an account? Seems rather silly and immature to continually come here to tattle on a blog you dislike and expect anyone to answer your equally silly notions about said blog. If you don’t like what goes on at a certain blog, why continue to visit it? That’s the silliest part about haters, continuing to engage in things they claim they don’t like, #1 being Kate Gosselin. Do you continually eat foods you don’t like too?
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Geewhiz, what Ellen did is not illegal or crossing any line.———am I missing something here? Where did GW say what Ellen did or does is illegal? FYI nothing Kate Gosselin has done, as far as having her kids on tv or magazines has been illegal either but by gawd haters love to claim everything about it is so sinster, including accusing her of doing things that are illegal, you know child abuse, child exploitation, child neglect, etc……………
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So why waste your time whining about what I say? Nuff said————– why do you waste your time whining about anything Kate Gosselin says or does? Nuff said
Sage- very sorry to hear about what was done to you. I also hope you rethink closing your blog as I don’t think they’re going to stop the harrassment of you or your family regardless of that decision.
TCparra says:
December 27, 2011 at 11:34 am
I just read Sage’s goodbye message. I don’t know what people are doing or saying that hurt to the bone like this and I send a heartfelt & sincere expression of sadness that you were hurt. I may have my opinions that are despised by most here, but I don’t condone any “outing” or posting of personal info when not authorized. I hope Sage feels better and shame on the person(s) who did that to her.
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That’s big of you to write TC. I am glad to read it!
The people who do this justify it (at least on Twitter) by saying moderators deserve it because they have “outed” others. It’s never happened at our site or Sage’s.
For haters reading: I do not mean to imply that “outings” have happened at other fan blogs, because I would never make that stupid accusation directly or by implication.
Carol, Hope and Marnie…thank you…My heart has been touched by your support and concern.
My kids asked me to shut my blog down. My son, in particular feels violated. They went to his facebook and tweeted a friend of his name and mentioned where she works. My son is stunned that someone whoud do this over a Glosslin blog! I guess we all should be stunned.
Oh Sage! That is awful!
TC,
That was very kind words you had for sage.
sage, you will be missed greatly.
It’s a sad day in blog land.
TC – It was good to read your kind words to Sage.
Mo – A very sad day indeed!
#114, all I will say is read comment # 107.
FYI: I didn’t admit to anything. I have NEVER said I tried to comment on that site as I don’t like it. I DO NOT have any accounts to log in, consistently why I don’t try and post at Sage or other blogs either, not just THAT one PLUS again, read comment # 107.
Not sure what the last part of your comment even means.
Anya, I will add that when those pro blog shout to anyone who will listen (or pretend to be listening) that “Ellen has actively tried to promote that the children care more about her than Kate” that is pro Kate blog that should shut down.
tc – I knew you would show your true self again. What needs to stop is you bringing your vendetta against Ziggy to IW.
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With everything the hater sites have said about Kate and the pictures and videos they have posted your statement is ludicrous.
Gee, did you see that I was simply adding to something that was said upthread? Try reading comment # 107. I saw your comment over “there” and I will only say that it’s no wonder you take issue with what I said in comment #125 (oh and it’s nice that you can predict the future and how the kids will feel).
I think we need a new bog about Jon and Ellen. Seems like someone wants to defend to the core, so I say, lets bring it on. Being nice one day, and throwing bs the next is the true color.
I agree GeeWhiz, this blog does not say ZiggyFlo does it.
Gee, what part of my comment is ludicrous? Just curious if you will specify (given your opinions on J & E).
True colors? I think there are a couple people who are confused. I was nice to Sage because I meant it. Does that mean I should be nice and change my view on somebody else? NO. What is BS about what I added in my last comment? Not sure what the last part of your comment even means snickers.
Ridiculous=consistently and constantly reading at a blog you admit you don’t like. Then after doing so, coming here to tattle on everything you don’t like about what you willingly choose to continue to read.
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If you’re worried about how someone states how the kids feel at this said blog, do you also call out all haters who claim to KNOW the kids will grow up to hate their Mom? I ask, but I think I already know the answer to my question. I won’t buy the ‘I need a link to anyone saying that or it didn’t happen’ BS, you’ve proven to all that you read all over and most definitely see the bad behavior but choose to ignore it and never address it
Marnie….”Ridiculous=consistently and constantly reading at a blog you admit you don’t like. Then after doing so, coming here to tattle on everything you don’t like about what you willingly choose to continue to read.”
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EXCELLENT POINT! Bet it gets ignored.
#131, tattle? Really? What are we like 12 now? I read there, yes just as a lot of fans read at “hate” sites and then shred what is written on various fan sites. So what?
I read the hate sites and yes I see the comments, from the insane to the reasonable. I have asked on occasion how they come to a certain conclusion. Do I need to provide YOU a link now?
tc #127 – I have the right to my opinion which is based on everything I know that Ellen has done. The kids love their mother and when they find out the crap she has done I guarantee you they will not be happy with Ellen. Since you decided to bring up my comments from “there” lets discuss the comments you have left about me on the hate blog you love. You called me a lesbian and you got pissed off when you said Kate didn’t run and I proved you wrong so you said something like f*** you with your simple google search. Such a mature person you are.
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tc #129 – Your statement “that is pro Kate blog that should shut down” is LUDICROUS. The hate sites you visit and defend have done so much worse to Kate and her supporters
Kmom2,
Yes, coming here to complain is the game. Using someone’s blog to tattle on another is just wrong. Guess she can’t concept her actions. Can we all find a link for her to post her bs about Kate and other blogs and leave IW out of it?? The poke is so old.
Gee, are you going to keep bringing that up. I did apologize a long time ago. Thats all you can do is keep bringing that up so you look like the “mature” one.
Hi everyone,
Is there any specific issue that anyone wants to discuss other than Ziggy’s blog? Like I said before, I don’t want to discuss that here.
TC,
STOP!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!! No one wants to battle with you, find a blog that will answer your questions and leave IW out of it!! This blog supports all Mom’s in life, not just Kate.
The hate sites I visit and defend? Well, I have asked how some things are “facts” without proof. In some cases I was shown proof. Yea. I don’t love any blog, I just think that particular one is funny when commenting on the blog we won’t name (as I was asked). I don’t join in on ANY talk about this blog or sages blog so your point is rather weak.
I haven’t been on Twitter today other than to tweet for IW. Anything new with Kate and the kids?
Snickers, there you go again. Have you not realized yet that I won’t leave here just because you don’t like me? No matter how many !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you use, I am here.
I am done with the personal exchanges and anything about Ziggy’s blog. Thank you.
tc – Guess I missed your apology. Can you give me a link please.
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Reread Pam’s #137. Show some respect and STOP talking about Ziggy’s blog.
I don’t know about anything new with Kate and the kids…..but last night one of my bun boys jumped from the floor to my bed and scared the living crap out of me! That’s new…they have never jumped up on my bed, only down from it when they get tired of me…..lol lol
Is a bun boy a bunny? Or a dog?
wow, You have been bringing it up, I have tried being “discreet” and carefully selecting my words. PLUS, I have been showing respect since Pam asked long before comment # 137 to limit the discussion of that blog.
I love it, lets change the subject.
GeeWhiz, ignore it, talk around it.
Pam…it’s a bunny. I have 2 boy bunnies that live in the bathroom in my bedroom. I have been letting them have the run of the bedroom since Christmas morning. Last night I cleaned out my room of all the wrapping paper, boxes, totes etc. and now their “playground” is gone so I guess the little dwarf guy, Dabster, decided to try his luck at jumping up to the bed. It’s kinda high and they have never tried it before. Nothing like waking up to a bunny walking on you in the middle of the night! LOL
TCparra:
December 28th, 2011 at 9:57 am
The hate sites I visit and defend? Well, I have asked how some things are “facts” without proof. In some cases I was shown proof.
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Since you offered it up post, I would like to see proof that you’ve questioned hate blogs, I’d also like to see what proof they gave you. Thanks.
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And all the haters are busy harrassing Ziggy and discussing whether or not Peggy is really Ziggy and if Ann is truth_teller
Bunnies – we had those as kids. How long have you had them? Don’t they require quite a bit of care?
Kate has a very nice new blog post about Christmas morning up on her site. A must read!
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I believe there is a picture of Shoka in the living room with all the kids. Isn’t this the dog that is never allowed in the house?! LOL.
#149, do you REALLY think I am going to provide you links or point out where I have questioned any blogs? Besides that comment was more about the fan blogs where I asked for proof and was shown it, in some cases. Again, you will need to do your own research. Blogs are not class rooms where any and all questions are meant to be answered.
Thanks, Anya. I just went over and read it. Nice post.
Marnie, I have to speak up and reiterate again that Ann is NOT Truth Teller. Ann would share with those of us who are close to her if she were, believe me. No offense to Truth Teller whose tenacity I respect, but Ann has a whole different style. I believe a certain #vile person started this asinine rumor.
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Speaking of asinine – Ziggy and Peggy are the same person?!? I’m assuming ‘they’ are just trying to stir sh#% up? Some people really need to get up, go outside and get some fresh air. 🙂
Again, you will need to do your own research. Blogs are not class rooms where any and all questions are meant to be answered. ~ tcparra
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The next time we are discussing something you did not see remember your words. They apply to you as well.
Pam, it was. I think it was sweet that Mady and Cara made sure Kate got a gift. I think many of us have experienced how special it is when our kids are finally old enough to appreciate that giving a gift is just as fun as receiving.
I agree. I got some lovely gifts from my sons this Christmas and there was thought put into it. Does anyone here have a panini maker? I wonder if they are worth the price and the room they take up in your kitchen.
Pam…I have 4 bunnies….2 girls, 2 boys and YES they are extremely high maintenance. I love them with all my heart, but I doubt I will have more after these furkids are gone. Just too much work. I have had my boys for 5 years and my girls for 4 years. Lots of fun, but tons of work.
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I have a panini maker and I have to say they do take up quite a bit of room and mine is heavy too. Worth the price…..hmmmm not really. You can buy a grill pan and grill your sandwich on it by putting a heavy pan on top or not for less than a panini maker. I have had mine a year and used it 2 times so far.
Gasp! Pam, are my comments wreaking havoc here or do you find them OK? (leaving out certain words or blogs of course).
Some feel that I am causing mayhem here.
LOL…..sheesh
Depends on what you mean by havoc.
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Thats what I thought about the panini maker. And I don’t have a big kitchen.
tcparra,
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I have a little exercise for us. You name two positive things about Kate and I will follow with two positive things about Jon.
I use my George Foreman grill. The sandwiches come out yummy.
1) She has 8 cute kids
2) She has no problem saying what she feels and not afraid to speak up.
Seasons Greetings & a virtual hug to all the ladies at IW 🙂
It appears I may have given someone the impression you were closing your blog on twitter today! Eeks sorry ladies, I’ve corrected the confused party..so hopefully it ends there.
I recently became aware that there is another #vile rumour circulating that I’ve left blogging because I was angry at Sage & perhaps several others.I think Mo took care of it, but I’d like to address it also! NOTHING, could be further from the truth! I’ve had to take a break for personal reasons.
I have nothing but respect for all of those at IW & SWE I consider many of you friends & will continue to support & visit as time allows!
Sorry to see Sage go:(..I read Sage almost every day although never set up an account.Shoulda coulda woulda!This site and Sages have been the most fair to both Mr. and Mrs. Gosselin et al. I try not to venture to 15 too often although out of curiosity, I did this evening. Why does BL have a side by side picture of Kate and Moamaar Gadhafi? I didn’t have time to read and personally find “dumbing down” too daunting to read there. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words… A thousand words not worth reading. Gadhafi? Seriously? The comparison is an insult to mankind not just mothers making the best of it.
1) He has 8 cute kids
2) Although I don’t know Jon, he comes across as a loving father.
TC-thank you for giving me the EXACT answer I expected. Typical.
Hi momsby and welcome back. Yes, I heard that rumor was going around and glad you were able to clarify it.
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Lilsmom, I think that someone wrote an article comparing Kate’s departure in TV to Gadhafi’s death???? Something like that. The haters loved it
tcparra, I thinking that you are not able to go two more.
tc didn’t you hear pam and others trying to change the subject? you behave like a brat who wants all the attention, when they don’t get it they keep hammering away. in think, no know you’ve exausted the subject. if you’re not ellen you must be her sister. i as a kate supporter don’t give a hoot about ellen nor jon. everbody just has to be who they are and i have lived long enough to not waste my time trying to change anybody. i just find your persistence in going over the same thing, aggravating.
Wait I can do two also.
1. He has 8 kids.
2. He has 2 thumbs and is able to text really well.
I know, LOL. I don’t think TCparra was very sincere in her effort.
Pam –
I’ve decided that for the new year I will choose to be amused by these types of things. People won’t change. They are what they are. But I can use them as a never ending source of amusement to me. They spur my imagination and that helps me fend off alzheimer’s as the years creep up on me.
I heard crossword puzzles were good for that too. lol So you think blogging works toward fending Alzheimers off ? Because if so, I am way ahead of the game. 😉
MarieS and Pam,
Man if this helps the old mind, I’d better get busy. :)))))
Pam, jumping fwd real quick.. i will come up with 2 more.. now back to reaading the comments.
#171, I think you are a little late to the party. What are you talking about? Things have moved on rather nicely. Besides, it’s not nice to call people names.
Marnie, why should my answers conform to something you want to see? That would be boring. Besides, you wern’t the one giving me the test, er, I mean exercise. ;0
Come on, what do you want me to say to that question?
I think she is a person who has a LOT of pressure put on her. Most of it unfair as she is a normal person who is living her life. If you asked me that question a few years ago, I could have easily say that she was beautiful (before the infamous haircut, lol). She had soft skin and didn’t show a lot of the stress that tends to show now. She still is beautiful though, ok? Especially the photos from that photographer. Without all the makeup.
Her dress style is hit & miss. Being honest here. She looks good in a lot of things, then there is the “questionable” selections. But, again who doesn’t make bad choices now & then.
OK, do these count? Do I pass? lol. Your turn.
I don’t know about that idea that blogging helps the mind. It might help the funny bone or something, but it has my faith in mankind slipping again.
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I want to say something positive about Jon:
I think he has a charming side. Kate certainly saw it. His kids still do.
Another positive: He has bounced back from his low without harming himself. I imagine his divorce and firing from TLC was mentally traumatic.
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I am not tweeting as TruthTeller or anyone else except Ann_IW. I have to say that I found it a bit flattering to be compared to her. She’s is not obscene and always accurate. She isn’t mean. She cares about the kids. HOWEVER, I think it’s important for our readers to trust us, so I don’t have sockpuppet accounts, on Twitter or elsewhere.
I don’t even have time to read all the fan blogs anymore. 🙁 I need to win the lottery to maximize my blogging time. I am not like those haters who can afford to tweet and blog at work.
I’ll say something positive about Jon. I remember how sweet it is was to see him sitting w/Joel down on the baseball field explaining the game to him. I hope they still have lots of moments like that.
178-don’t recall asking you to conform, I said it was what I expected. I also don’t expect you to know the difference. You offered the link but when taken up on the offer you declined
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Ann I don’t think you’re truth teller, it is amusing to see haters twirl all day every day.
I am not tweeting as TruthTeller or anyone else except Ann_IW.~Ann@IW
I saw SG start that. What’s amazing is she calls tweeting this stuff “just giving her opinion.” Talk about whitewashing what is plain old lying and starting rumors.
I have many positives about Jon..if I may contribute?
He had a deep love & respect for his father & was not shy about sharing his love or sadness about his loss.
I enjoyed his sense of humour & found him witty! Especially in the early years, he & Kate had an interesting banter.
He loves his kids & I truly believe he loved his wife & vice-versa!
He co-parented & was a hands on Dad!
Although, they had different parenting styles & roles I felt he & Kate were a good team & complimented each other. Especially, with the babies.
He recognized that his wife’s role as a SAHM to 8 was a HUGE challange & gave her credit & recognition.
Although, I don’t think physical characteristics are particularly important when discussing a person’s positives….he has beautiful teeth & I thought he was attractive when I watched the show… because of the things listed above 😉
SG is wrong again! In fact I believe Truth Teller was one of the original G-tweeters & was tweeting long before most of us.
I’m sure if someone with great investigative computer powers chose too, they could find that out.
Although, basically calling someone a liar with a JMO is less trouble & allows time for other online activities!
Hi momsby and welcome back. Really missed you. Love your list and of course everyone can contribute. I was really just trying to bring a softer side to all of this.
I also would like to address the rumor that we or I own EDOS. We don’t. I did make a statement last night that I don’t support EDOS and I don’t. All of this posting of links to people and places on Twitter and EDOS has gotten out of control. Poor unsuspecting people that have nothing to do with any of this are being brought into all of the drama. I know no one from our group owns the site and I know that Sage and Patty Pie do not either. I have never talked to Ziggy or BM about it but I would be willing to bet the house that they don’t own it either. We can’t control EDOS just like Jen and Andi can’t control what the haters post on Twitter or what the people post on the 15 min blog or other sites like that. To think that Sage supported what went on at EDOS is just ridiculous. If they only knew how against that site she was. Was it her responsibility to speak out against it or mine? Absolutely not. Should we hold Jen and Andi to the same standard? Speak out against all of the injustices being done or if you don’t it makes you a supporter. Just shaking my head.
tc i reread my 171 post and the only place i see anybody could interpret my calling someone a name was “behaving LIKE a brat” if the “name fits so be it. you certainly have ruined my pleasure in reading this blog. if you consider posting as conversation then you in my opinion would be interrupting everybody. that’s rude. bye
What is all this obsession about EDOS? I just heard of it on Sage’s blog, then what it was on Ziggy’s. I don’t understand why it’s such an issue.
IMO, after looking at EDOS I came to the conclusion that a hater owns it. It’s a sneaky way to harvest info/IP addresses from people. It just seems like something they would do..
hmmmm thanks suesmom. I tink you are right, sounds like something the haters would do. Ziggy mentioned that IP thing too.
I’ve been posting at EDOS for a while. It’s a satire site. We mock them.No outing.I hope I’m still invited here to post even if I post there.
Sorry, but isn’t EDOS the anti-lisak-blog? Seriously, why are those other three even involved? I mean besides the fact that they are behind hurting Sage’s family?
Yes, Sadiemay, you certainly are. You are free to disagree. It’s people who do harm, who threaten, who harass who need to stay away.
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It’s not run by any of them.Lisa & the others They’re just blowing smoke.
On Topic. I hope Kate will meet a great man in the New Year. But he’ll have to have thick skin because we all know he’ll investigated by the hate blogs and he’ll be harassed at home and work.They’ll publish ALL info they can find on him.
Also: There is no way I or Pam or anyone has to take responsibility for words we haven’t said, posts we haven’t made, sites we don’t own. I don’t feel in the least that I have to defend or agree with everything written here! People participate or not based on their own perspective. Everyone makes up his own mind.
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These sophomoric women who hurt Sage actually threatened PattyPie last night. They have no self-control.
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I won’t defend sharing real life information on people, because I can’t. Schmeckygirl, JenD, and AndiSnark all defended or downplayed the harm to Sage, her family, and their friends on Twitter. I think the whole thing is disgusting. Tweeting lies and saying “it’s just an opinion” is disgusting.
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All I can think is how long have these children waited for a chance to do this? I knew they were invested…but really, Sage, IW? We’re not even celebrities.
Should we hold Jen and Andi to the same standard?
I counsel people not to set themselves up for failure. I’d avoid setting any standards with those two.
Ann, I really don’t know all the history on those two and their friend SG,but what I have learned just from reading different blogs and twitter leads me to beleive that there are serious mental issues going on with these people. How could any NORMAL adult not only condone but ENJOY the things that they do. Such drama and hatred for people they don’t even know can only be explained by a serious chemical imbalance.
How could any NORMAL adult not only condone but ENJOY the things that they do. Such drama and hatred for people they don’t even know can only be explained by a serious chemical imbalance.
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You mean like what the CJ woman is doing all over twitter? You are right, there is some SERIOUS mental issues going on with her. Funny how when a “fan” is doing it no one says a word, but if a “hater” does it, it’s like flies on poo on the fan sites. the “fan” double standard is staggering in it’s blindness to the exact same behaviors from “fans”.
It’s amazing to watch these rumors start. They use absolutely no sense, they just want to hurl accusations. No matter how baseless, the other khaters run w/them.
I saw Andi telling Mojito that she had never accused Sage of an old event. At that time, she had gone to Kate’s twitter to make accusations (she complains that she’s on my radar, but only because she had been jumping up and down yelling on Kate’s twitter back then ..not like I follow her around). I was involved w/arguments at the time and knew she had indeed accused Sage. I couldn’t believe Andi was denying it, so I just retweeted her old tweets I had pulled. Next thing, I’m accused of keeping all of Andi’s tweets for the last three years (as if, really…that’s so funny) and that somehow that meant IW was running EDOS. They just prove over and over that they don’t care about the truth and that mean people suck.
201 I don’t know CJ or anything about CJ. I have only followed the Gosselin blogs for a couple of years and in that time just from the blogs I have learned that those two have started and closed blogs while lying about who they are,used other blog owners for money and outed someone’s son. I do not think this behavoir is acceptable for ANYONE fan or non-fan.
but if a “hater” does it, it’s like flies on poo on the fan sites.
If a hater does what? What are you saying a hater does, stephanie?
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What CJ? Are you commenting on CJWhodunnit who comments here at IW?
Ann, I was wondering the same thing… All I’ve seen CJ do is stand up to the haters with their ridiculous claims.. I guess the haters don’t allow that in their narrow-minded world… Geez. All this stuff is making my head spin!
Well, same here, Carol. You can be sure if “CJ” is CJWhodunnit, then there is nothing she’s done here that anyone needs to be calling her names for. So it’d better not happen again.
If it’s some other CJ, then who? If it’s our CJ’s behavior elsewhere, take it up there and stop whining about it here.
Sorry, Judy, I accidentally called you Carol.
That’s okay, Ann… Yes, I”m pretty sure it’s the same CJ who posts here. How she can be compared to the haters is beyond me!
stephanie – Apparently you missed all the attacks against CJ and her family. She is giving back what has been done to her.
209-I agree! Haters conveniently forget all they have said About CJ…………. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones! There’s one right now claiming to be in the same town as CJ, staying nearby, going to court against her (yesterday……. Which didn’t happen, well maybe in their head) and threatening to contact her husband at work
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They also make fun of her kids
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Claim to have contacted her church
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Tweeted her address, her divorce, threaten to contact her ex
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Called her husband and his parents “dot head”
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The haters forget they drew first blood with CJ and all they have done since
Understanding all of that, we are not going to fight those battles here at Imperfect Women.
Oh I understand that Pam, nor do I expect that to happen.
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CJ hasn’t brought any of that here either, I was just answering Stephanie’s post.
Thanks marnie. I will be deleting any further comments regarding those issues
Well I am just now getting back into the grove of things here and although I havent read all the comments above, nor do I know what happened to Sage and her family, it does explains why today I go to her blog, and it is no longer there. I hope the mean people of the world find peace in their hearts.
Pam, I’m sorry for #201 trying to cause problems at IW. Fellow imperfect women, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for your kind words about me & my family. Happy New Year 2012 to all of you & your families! 🙂
Mods ~ I hope you do not allow them to bring the anger/hate/childishness to this site. I’m a long time LURKER and if you were to show my email addy to BabyMama she could prolly explain who I am. As a long-time friend of Kate’s I believe this site is way too classy to get involved with the stupid blog wars that seem to never end. Anyways, I hope this site doesn’t get involved because in the end its all just NONSENSE. And I hope some of you can go on about your lives and just say to yourself “I’m better than this” and not let yourselves get dragged into the drama.
Thanks.
We are not going to get dragged into this drama. We will not fight any blog wars here at Imperfect Women. Kate appears to be moving on with her life and we will just keep on moving on with ours. When something positive comes along to write about, we will.
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Thank you for your comment. 🙂
Thanks for that, Pam! That’s what makes IW such a special place!
Pam, there are always positive things to write about Kate. I for one am looking forward to “new non drama made-up news 2012!”. Also, missing the Pie here and regret not submitting my favorite holiday recipe. Oh, and by the way, every time I tune in to watch Modern Family that “Pie production” comes up after the show Suburgatory. Guess The Pie’s been busy editing :)It makes me smile. You know what would be interesting? If Kate did a cookbook, as she seems to want to do, and had fans send in there favorite recipes? How easy would that be to show support? P.S. I don’t charge for my recipes:) just support moms in all circumstances.
Thanks Judy for saying that. I have really been hit hard with the flu. Anyone else?
Hi Roozerdo, I agree. Peace instead of so much anger.
lilsmom, I agree that Kate is leading a very positive life. I will pass your comment on to Pattypie. She has been quite sick herself for quite a few weeks.
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Maybe you could do a guest post for “the Slice of the Pie.” Would you like to share some of your recipes or one of your favorites?
Happy and prosperous New Year to all the “Imperfect Women” ladies. You rock!
Thank you Lindsey! I did just start a thread for talking about the New Year if anyone would like. https://imperfectwomen.com/happy-new-year-from-imperfect-women/
Hope everyone has a wonderful New Year. It would be great if Kate did indeed meet a nice man 2012.
Hope you are feeling better Pattiepie and Pam. It is never a good time to get the flu, but it is especially bad this time of year.
Last comment was deleted. We are not discussing that here. You have other sites and twitter to get your message across.
Because I didn’t make that decision until I saw the way this conversation was headed and I clearly stated previously that this was it
Look Get Real at comment 201. It still stands. People responded to that comment which was left first. This is not a place to discuss what goes on in your Twitter world or Facebook group or whatever with all of this fighting. We do not want that drama here between any of the parties. Either side. I let 201 stand so I let a few others stand and then I put a stop to it because there started to become an exchange.
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I have asked you nicely to take it somewhere else. We do allow debate and discussion but this is one topic we are not going to discuss. I clearly stated in my comment #188 that I was against all of this nonsense going on and I don’t care who is doing it. It needs to stop.
Pam says..Kate appears to be moving on with her life and we will just keep on moving on with ours. When something positive comes along to write about, we will.
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Perfectly said. I hope and believe we will have some positive things to write about ALL the Gosselins in 2012 (while continuing to talk about many things non-Gosselin!).
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As a side note, I hope Pam and Patty start to feel better! Sending healing vibes!
RE: 226-229, Pam and Anya-Thank you. Very sensible position to take. Civil War blogs and discussion groups learned the hard way that allowing flame wars among posters to take hold was, too often, a death sentence for the forum. This was because, regardless of the merits of their positions, the combatants on both sides got so vile that non-combatants stopped posting.
As for the Twitter wars, I recommend the pro-active use of blocking.
Happy New Year to Kate, the kids, Shoka, and all non-haters!
Thanks Pam!!!!!!
Peggy, I’m just curious. Were they fighting about the Civil War or procedural stuff?
see… I don’t always instigate the negative mood when it rears it ugly head. lol. Have a great New Year everybody!!
Ahhh but I think somehow TCparra, you are related to it….you know the whole 6 degrees of separation. 😉
oh gawwwwwwd! don’t say that, you’ll give Marnie or snickers idea’s! 🙂 😉
Ann-They fight mostly over Civil War stuff, but there are so many Civil War issues that still arouse strong feelings toay. Just think of the controversies over the display of the “Confederate” flag (actually based on the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia). On the other hand, I remember one really nasty fight that broke over whether Union General John Reynolds was killed, at Gettysburg, by a minie ball or an artillery shell fragment.
Oh & btw, for all those who say I should go and ask a particular fan blog “where she comes up with some of her zany ideas”. Well, I recently signed up with google for two reasons, so I could say goodbye to Sage on her site and go to this particular blog and ask a question or two. Well, three questions in I was referred to a static image saying I was banned.
So, I guess countervailing conversation really means I’m afraid to allow debate, so the crazier your comment, the better because no one can question you. 😉
So, I say thank you to IW, a Pro fan blog who understands that allowing both sides of a conversation is good for brain exercise and doesn’t allow boredom to set up shop.
Sending a shout out to HB and the Slice of PIE for a Happy New Year.
Pam, I’m still laughing over the carp drop. 🙂
TC, my News Years Resolution is not to engage with negative, have a great New Year. 🙂
My New Years wish is for ALL the Kate haters to get everything they wish on Kate to come to them! : )
Well, I guess #240 and #241 won’t engage then. Slice it up any way you like, that is still hate just being spewed from a fan.
Happy New Year to one and all!
Happy New Year, one and all!
P.S. That “just hate from a fan” line has gotten very old. Give it up!
RE: #238. TC: Yes, you can comment on IW. What rules IW have and where they choose to draw the line is their business. Every blog owner has the right to make those decisions for his, her, or themselves. What I can’t comprehend is why you keep bringing up and trying to post on a Kate-support blog for which you have expressed nothing but contempt (and please don’t try to be disingenuous; you made it perfectly clear which one you meant by the “countervailing” remark). You certainly have no shortage of blogs on which you can comment, so it’s not like you’re being suppressed or being deprived of the ability to engage in what meets your definition of debate if you can’t post on that blog. That leaves the strong inference that the only reason you want to go on there is to sow discord.
Peggy, you are a co-admin at that blog so of course your opinion is biased. I did ask questions that were not nasty or vile or mean or anti kate. I haven’t been “trying to post” on that blog either. I made the initial attempt yesterday and was promptly blocked. Oh well. Yes, I made a snarky comment about countervailing. The conversations that you co-mod over are no where near countervailing, more along the lines of one sided. This blog has no problem handling both sides of the gosselin blogging world, just so happens I am a small percentage of the other side and probably not that hard to either hit “publish” or “delete”.
#244, what is old about “hate is hate, regardless if it’s a fan or a non fan” It happens and is forgiven in some circumstances or out right justified because “the comments posted by haters is far worse than any hate comments made by a fan”
Ok, both sides have spoken. Please drop it. I will try and put up a new post tonight or in the morning.
OK. Thanks for the opportunity to complete the comments.
I posted a new article https://imperfectwomen.com/tlcs-laurie-goldberg-featured-in-the-ny-times/
Peggy, that made my jaw drop. I do not think of Civil War buffs as having haters!
Ann-You have no idea how bad it can get.
RE: #248-Pam, of course, I respect your request. I have nothing more to say on the matter.
Would just like to clarify that the poster “CJ” on #225 is NOT me. I will never post under any different name here than “CJWhodunit”. I don’t do socks, thanks, here or elsewhere.
CJWhodunit,
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CJ doesn’t post much at IW but she has posted here for over a year now and has always used that screen name. Yes, CJ and CJWhodunit are two different people.
Ah, good to know, Pam. I’ve heard my name is being used elsewhere, not by me, and thought that might be happening here. CJ, bygones! 🙂