According to the National Enquirer, Jon Gosselin, the former star of Jon and Kate Plus 8 and ex-husband of Kate Gosselin, has had his luxury BMW repossessed and is having a difficult time financially. Apparently he is driving his mother’s minivan.
“The 34-year-old dad – who works in construction and installation – missed multiple payments on the vehicle, disclosed a friend.”
“Jon contemplated selling the car a few times over the past couple of years, but he never did,” noted the friend. “He loved it and always scraped together the monthly payments.”
The article goes on to say that Jon lives with his girlfriend in a one bedroom apartment and that the money he saves will go to helping them find a bigger apartment. Unless Jon has recently moved, it appears that the Enquirer might have some of this information wrong.
Times are tough for many right now and many people are losing their cars and homes. It is especially hard to lose transportation or housing around the holidays. Hopefully good things will come Jon’s way in 2012 and we are wishing Jon and his family a Happy and Prosperous New Year!
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I feel bad for Jon that his finacial woes are made public. I’m sure he feels embarrased. I would.
I actually do too and hesitated posting this but I know that all the major media outlets will pick it up today so I decided to go ahead with it. I tried to put a positive spin on it because I do sincerely hope that 2012 is a better year for him.
Being down on your luck is hard… Having it exposed by yhe tabs makes it painful. Wishing Jon a better 2012!
I do feel a little sorry for him, but the Khaters have tried to get Kate fired from every job she has done. No one called Jon’s jobs or tried to ruin his life. Maybe now they will understand why Kate is trying her best to provide for the kids. I do wish him the best, but it’s time he stands up to the Khaters and speaks out! Wishing him and Ellen a good New Year!
I hope the National Enquirer got it ALL wrong because if he’s behind on car payments, he’s likely behind on child support
I’d much rather try to poke a few holes in that rag. Unless something quite recently went wrong…Kate stated she was much happier w. Jon’s new housing arrangement. Ellen posted pics of ‘our neighbor’s flooded back yard’ during Lee or hurricane Irene…it looked like a middle class neighborhood w. woods & generous yards. Plus if she was taking pics from ‘their’ house…it was from under a deck w. a BBQ grill. Also recall Jon saying he was spending weekends doing home repairs & building a tree fort (just about the time Kate built hers!)? I also remember Jon saying he sold that BMW as well as cashing out his 401k to keep up w. child support…when he moved back to PA…almost 2 yrs, ago?
For once I hope I’m right. I’d not wish any part of that rag’s story on Jon…! (OR could this be that same pissed brother who sold him out before?)
I thought I read somewhere that Jon had tweeted about this? Since I can’t see his Twitter, I have no idea if that was true or not. Does anyone else know?
This is interesting:
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MyBorderCollie Marie
I feel real bad for Jon Gosselin that he had his car repossessed. What a awful thing to happen especially at this time of year. @kateplusmy8
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@MyBorderCollie He does have the big blue bus that I gave him 2 weeks ago tho..
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@Kateplusmy8 @MyBorderCollie I knew it, because you are a good mom like that ; )
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Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @BIogHawg @Kateplusmy8 @MyBorderCollie That was very nice of u. I bet you were thinking of the kids when u did it. ABSOLUTELY THE GOAL!
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Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
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@BIogHawg @MyBorderCollie My mantra: doing what’s best for my kids. You’d do it too, wouldn’t you? Most moms would I imagine…
And said she is driving a new BBB
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@Just_Elliee A new BBB! It was time…
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Interesting…….can’t wait to hear the haters take on this.
Yeah, I don’t know what’s up with the reports that Jon is still in the 1 BR apt. ROL articles, as well as others I’ve seen, still say that. It was nice that Kate gave him the old BBB. National Enq didn’t know that either.
the haters will be ALL over that!
They were too involved in the woman who tweeted Kate a pic of a license plate today. It was a license plate of a mom of 8 who was a marathon runner and she took a pic of it and tweeted it to Kate. They were all over that. Quite nasty to her and so she deleted her Twitter account. Can you believe that?
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Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @Kate_Schwarz @Kateplusmy8 Your New Jersey clone… Marathon runner & Momof8! pic.twitter.com/WCDx3lWK OMG that’s amaz! Who is this woman?
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He’s made some really bad choices but I can’t help feel bad for him. Especially with it being public and especially at Christmas. Yikes.
I hope 2012 will be a better year for him. Economy is rough everywhere.Not sure if I believe the story though.
Apparently Jon came out on Twitter and talked about this:
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pamelajaye pamelajaye
@jongosselin1 darn! it’s been so peaceful lately. don’t let the turkeys get to u. 8 happy kids beats a flashy car anyday. want my 95 Saturn?
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@pamelajaye I sold my M3 over a year ago. That article is 100% fabricated.
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@jongosselin1 PS, I thought @ellen_ross1 had her own apartment? (I had assumed otherwise and then learned she lived elsewhere)
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@pamelajaye And Ellen and I do not live together. This made me chuckle.
December 15th, 4:52 PM
Reading between the lines on Jon’s Twitter…I think ‘the duck lady’s’ responses to Jon pretty much blows the Nat’l Enguirer story up. It would appear Jon says he does not live w. Ellen…& his BMW was not an issue??? Something he said a few months ago led me to believe he moved closer to his mother which is not a commute that a gov. worker in Camp Hill could make daily. Nor could Jon easily whip by to see the 8 for a quick after school meal…assuming he has a 9-5 job.
Ooops Pam…I should have waited before sending! ;0) Pamelajaye is the ‘duck lady’.
I agree, the whole NE story is not believable. I am glad he has a BBB to safely take all 8 in. Maybe he won’t have to wait at the gate for the switcheroo anymore because he doesn’t even have to get out of the old BBB now.
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HB, do you know where his mom lives? I thought she lived in Harrisburg, which is near Ellen?
Pam, I am glad you published this because it demonstrates again that the vast majority of us wish Jon nothing but good. How could we not? Wishing ill on Jon and Kate demonstrates no concern whatsoever for the Gosselin children.
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This sounds like a typical National Enquirer article. Perhaps one little nugget of truth mixed in with a bunch of lies. Remember the Kate seeking advice from Kris Kardashian article a few weeks ago?
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I’m glad both Jon & Kate can clear these silly rumors up quickly on Twitter.
Ha, I mean Kris Jenner!
Anya,
Wouldn’t it be even nicer if Jon cleared up all the Khaters on the net?
Can you imagine if an article came out saying that Kate had something repoed,the haters would be ecstatic.They would be high-fiving and saying that fame—– got what she deserved. The fact that no one here or any of the fan blogs that I have read feel anything but sympthay for Jon if he is truly going through this speaks volumes about the integrity of the fans versus the haters. I am hopeful that Jon and Kate can have a more civil relationship and that Jon will start to discourage the haters that try to make Kate;s life difficult. On another note, Sage if you read this I am so happy for you. I say grandchildren are the purest form of joy on earth!! I can be having the worst day ever and a smile or a hug from one of my babies just erases everything. I can’t get my google account to work to comment at Sage’s,sorry IW ladies,but I really wanted to congratulate Sage, I hope it’s ok.
Hi carol,
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It is perfectly fine! I will email her and make sure she sees it. It is so exciting, isn’t it!
Ann, I got the impression Jon either bought or rented a house near his mother who lives in Huntingdon…OR in the opposite direction, in West Chester…which was nearer to his ‘green job’…where he was working when he moved. Jon & Ellen spend much time in West Chester w. their music friends…plus Kate mentioned she’d offered to drop the kids by on their way back from that camping trip – which I’d think would put Jon closer to her than to Ellen?
Lame guessing on my part. I am surprised & yet happy that he’s out of the camera’s eye…wherever he is. Also pleased he got a chuckle when it was assumed he & Ellen were living together. Just perhaps both Ellen & Jon realize there is a more appropriate way that they should exemplify for the 8’s benefit. There is a right way & a wrong way & there are probably 8 little minds w. differing opinions that Kate has had to grapple with. NOT EASY!
#22, what should Jon do to clear up the Khaters on the net? In all the warm and fuzzy thoughts of niceness here, you had to ruin it. They are divorced and it’s not Jon’s purpose in life (any longer) to protect his wife or defend her against mean things said on the net. She gets what she gets because it’s the “brand” she built.
I think it would have been more genuine if Kate didn’t make sure to tell all her “tweeties” that she gave Jon the BBB.
“Can you imagine if an article came out saying that Kate had something repoed,the haters would be ecstatic.They would be high-fiving and saying that fame—– got what she deserved.”
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So true. So,so true.
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I don’t understand the desire by people to wish harm or loss on people. How in the world does that do anything for anybody? I would feel dirty typing something that hoped for harm on a person.
I thought that the information Kate revealed about the BBB was a good thing. To me, it makes me think that Jon and Kate are working together in a positive way to do what is best for the kids. It made me respect Jon more.
Oh tcparra, you must be talking about something you read on Kate’s Twitter timeline?
Pam, your comment #8 mentions the tweet. IMO Kate likes to pat herself on the back and get praise from her tweeties. Like when she Retweets something where a fan is gushing over Kate and she add something like “ah, thanks”
Did someone wish harm on someone in that tweet? I am not seeing it?
Simply amazing…even when Kate does a good thing for Saint Jon she gets bashed. I don’t think it’s Kate’s purpose in life to supply Jon with a vehicle, but she did and it was the right thing to do. I don’t think Kate was “patting herself on the back” by saying she gave it to him
Sorry Pam. I meant in general when people wish harm on kate or for her to lose a job or whatever. I was referring to your comment in regards to the “I gave Jon the BBB” tweet.
Bashed? I was referring to someone here who just had to show make sure that Jon needed to “clear up the khaters on the net” No bashing there.
“I think it would have been more genuine if Kate didn’t make sure to tell all her “tweeties” that she gave Jon the BBB.”
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Bashing? Maybe not. Snarky? ABSOLUTELY! She didn’t have to do that for Jon. His transportation is not her responsibility, but for the sake of her kids she did it and still you can’t say something nice.
I think TC’s comment was meant for me. Yes, Jon should not let the bashing from the Khaters to continue. He could ask them to leave Kate and their children alone. I have seen many vulgar tweets about Kate and some have included the kids. I guess this doesn’t bother you TC. You seem to have a HUGE problem is something negative is said about Jon. Jon owns what he has done, and everyone has wished him well. I was just making a comment it would be nice for Jon to do something for his ex family. Big whoop, deal with it.
Kmom, you have never liked my comments and that’s fine.
Snarky? You need to adjust your “hater” radar. What I said was genuine and not sarcastic or snarky. She didn’t need to inform ANYBODY what she did with the van. The story in the N.E was BS, per J & K tweets, yet she felt the need to make sure all her tweety buddies knew how much of a saint she was for “giving” Jon the bus. We don’t know the custody agreement and we don’t know what is court ordered and what is actually two divorced parents co-parenting with respect for the sake of the kids.
Deal with it? You don’t get it do you? Tell the tweeters to leave her alone? He’s not rallying the tweeters to say bad things and he probably would be on twitter 24/7 wasting time trying to deter the haters. Kate has the fans she has due to her attitude. She can change that attitude and probably change the way the majority of the public feels about her.
You’re right……I can give Jon kudos when he earns them, but you can’t even choke out a nice comment about Kate.
I don’t understand why some consider Jon a saint for doing things that all fathers should do, but no matter what Kate says… and usually she is just answering a question…she is lambasted. Kate has every right to say whatever she wants on Twitter without the Haters ripping her apart. So, it’s okay to pat Jon on the back, but God forbid anyone say a nice thing about Kate or Kate makes a statement of fact and she is the devil incarnate. There is a definitely inbalance of reasoning here…
Well, I disagree there. I have said some nice things about her and her attempts to better herself. The problem is, most of my comments YOU would file under “hater”
I learned something along time ago: No matter what you say or type about a person, it doesn’t matter if it is singing praises or piling accolades upon them or whatever, the minute you say “but” in the conversation the reader or listener forgets EVERYTHING you said prior to that word.
#40, What do you mean a “saint for doing things all fathers should do”. Can you be more specific?I’ve never really seen any saintly talk or father of the year chatter. I think considering where Jon was in the court of public opinion, if he gets a few “way to go” or what ever is that so wrong? Kate likes to use Twitter as a chat room. OK, good for her. There ARE some things she should just say “I don’t talk about that” – and screw the people who say she is hiding something. Most sane “haters” think her keeping quiet about somethings is a good thing.
Carol, Thank you for the best wishes…I am so excited and can’t wait!
I just took a trip down fantasy lane on Kate’s twitter TL. They’ve worked it all out that Kate got a free van for running the marathon (that they claim she cheated in). Because…you know.. there were no pap pics of Kate shopping for a new van (wouldn’t that be a special order anyway?). They see nothing but conspiracies. I think they all spit out their meds when the nurse isn’t looking.
That late night group has gone beyond gruesome in their death wishes. They are wallering in how disgusting they can be. I can’t believe that’s how they get their kicks.
This was mentioned at Sage’s, but I forgot to mention they are still going on that the BBB wasn’t Kate’s to give. They are saying that because it was gift, that both J&K owned it. As if that precludes it from being listed as a marital asset in the divorce.
They are such mind-benders when it comes to anything Kate. It’s amazing that they don’t get embarrassed by their continuous lies and conspiracies.
Lily,
LOL your comment “I think they all spit out their meds when the nurse isn’t looking” Makes me think of One Flew Over the Cuckoos nest.
The haters make up their saint Jon stories.
Like Jon went and helped Kate when the electric was out~ or he helped her remove the fallen tress~ or Jon was the one who took juice and crackers to the kids when they were sick ETC ~.
All LIES that the haters tweeted.
But when Kate tweets the TRUTH they can’t handle it!
I’m thinking Jon must be happy to have the old BBB and not have to have a driver to take him to pick it up or drop it off any more. The khaters are totally up in arms over it coming up with insane details on twitter like they’re not happy this worked out well for the Gosselins. WHAT is it they want? This is between Jon & Kate right?
The haters expected Kate to get their approval before giving out a car.
Some people are never happy ~ Some people that got a free car from OPRAH complained that they now had to pay to register it ~LOL
CoCo – you write that Jon had many debts and owes many and had a hard time keeping any job. How in the world do you think you know all this?
Why would Kate be given a Van for running the marathon? If that is the case, then it was a paid event and she didn’t run it for her kids OR to prove anyone wrong.
“The Haters expected Kate to get their approval” That is just drama blog material. Just plain gossip. Plus, some people couldn’t afford the taxes on the cars that Oprah gave out. Sometimes free isn’t really free. I’m sure there was quite a few people in that audience who didn’t have an extra 5 or 6 thousand lying around. Thats the reason they had to sell it.
I am a DRAMA FREE Zone ~
It’s the most wonderful time of the year
I just love that song : )
Wishing Jon a wonderful holiday and a great New Year!! Kate and the kids will have their happy times also!
My Grandmother always said ~ Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
She was wise : )
There is a new post up on Hollybaby today saying that Kate Gosselin is jealous of Ellen Ross. She is not only jealous but she is mad with jealousy, mind you.
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“Kate can’t stand that the kids like Ellen,” the source continued. “Kate wants the kids to not think of Ellen as a stepmother, it drives Kate crazy. Kate doesn’t like the kids getting close to her and she refuses to accept Ellen.”
TCparra:
December 16th, 2011 at 8:20 am
#22, what should Jon do to clear up the Khaters on the net? In all the warm and fuzzy thoughts of niceness here, you had to ruin it. They are divorced and it’s not Jon’s purpose in life (any longer) to protect his wife or defend her against mean things said on the net. She gets what she gets because it’s the “brand” she built.
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She ‘gets it’….. Wow, talk about blame game. She ‘gets it’ because there are some loonie people hell bent on bashing her no matter what
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Jon has no obligation to Kate, but he does to his 8 children. Most of the hater talk is about how abused the G8 are, that will affect his children.
Maybe Kate didn’t need to say anything about the BBB on twitter, but Jon didn’t need to say anything about the tab story either. Same, same, same. 1 raked over the coals, 1 given a pass. Hater logic is flawed
I am not in Kate’s mind like some people~ But I (highly) doubt she is jealous of Ellen~LOL
RE#56 I’m totally confused. What exactly does Ellen have that would make Kate jealous? Looks, personality, fame, fortune, intelligence, excellent taste in men? What?????
So, care to explain what Jon said about the tab story? I thought he said it was “made up”? What story are you referring to?
“Kate can’t stand that the kids like Ellen,” the source continued. “Kate wants the kids to not think of Ellen as a stepmother, it drives Kate crazy. Kate doesn’t like the kids getting close to her and she refuses to accept Ellen.”
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Ugh. That makes me feel bad for Ellen because it looks like she’s the source for this information. It makes her look obsessed with Kate and Kate’s opinion of her, like the stupid article about whether Kate talks to her. The thing is…I actually think these stupid articles are made up entirely.
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It’s far more likely that someone at Holly baby is jealous of Kate Gosselin, not that Kate is jealous of Ellen.
The story in the N.E was BS, per J & K tweets, yet she felt the need to make sure all her tweety buddies knew how much of a saint she was for “giving” Jon the bus.- TC
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If she is correcting tabloid rumors, and it’s the truth (that she gave him the BBB)why is it a problem?
Kate jealous of Ellen. ROTF. Ellen is a young gal, likes the bar life and has 3 pissy dogs. Kate has beautiful children, a home, kids attend a good school. I doubt that Ellen really wants to be tied down with 8 kids at her age. If anyone is jealous it would be Ellen. I think she wanted fame with Jon, and all she got was his debts and headaches. I do sorta feel sorry for her. Seems Jon won’t marry her, or maybe Ellen put the brakes on all of that. She would be forever helping to pay his bills for many years.
YES Ann, thank you for articulating my thoughts exactly. It does not surprise me that haters get it.
Just when you think the comments are mature and make sense, you get #64 comment. You should work for the NE. Everything you said was MADE UP and ridiculous. You have no idea what Jon & Ellen are doing in their private life, least of all if they thought about marriage and what she wanted when they got together. IF they decided to get married, I’m sure Ellen is smart enough to know what “bills she would be paying”. Talk out both sides of your mouth much? “Jon won’t marry her or maybe Ellen put the brakes on all of that” THAT MAKES NO SENSE and you have no idea what you are gossiping about. Ellen is an adult and probably aware of what she was getting into when they became a couple.
#63, because she is patting herself on the back by telling everybody she GAVE him the bus. Why does she have to correct ANY tabloid stories? I thought she didn’t read the tabloids or the haters comments.
Just checked ellen_ross1 ! Either she’s given up tweeting or something is being worked on.
One can only imagine just how kind & thoughtful Ellen & Jon are on visiting weekends. With all the freebie junk Ellen hauls in from her fashion forward peddlers…it probably like Christmas every other weekend. Plus all the take-out junk food 8 little kids dream of…? Unfortunately that’s what most non-custodial caregivers do. 48 hrs. of pure freedom to do just the opposite of…in this case, Kate’s rules. No doubt, Jon telegraphed to HollyBaby that Kate will have nothing to do w. his ‘partner’/nanny in waiting. Perhaps payback for yesterday’s unfair slap at Jon. Who knows…! As long as the 8 come home happy, Ellen is Jon’s choice. Jealousy is NOT something Kate would waste a thought on. Lindsey, you said it best! ;0)
OC TC, get a drink. LOL. There not married so the “stepmother” issue is a wish Ellen maybe wants. I’m sure no source close to Kate sold this story!! Must need some bucks for the holidays!
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#64…after all, snickers ~ Ellen does play Ann Landers, w. free advice. The last couple of problems she’s replied to explain just why this young girl has some more maturing ahead of her! I don’t expect anyone her age, who had never even been to NYC before meeting Jon…has a very limited view outside of living in Harrisburg all her life. At one point, Jon did say, “Ellen has her friends, & I have mine’. There is a HUGE leap from a boring gov. job, t.v. viewing & collecting pissy dogs to being involved w. a feuding, struggling, ex-husband w. 8 children – who’d gone from bon vivant t.v. maven to JOBLESS. How long ago was it that Ellen did her interview w. IW? I do believe Ellen had known just 3 mos. of Jon, & yet she was rife w. disrespect in re. to Kate. Hmmm, a wiser woman would have HELD her tongue. A wiser woman would have not attached her blog to Jon Gosselin, the private guy. A wiser Jon wouldn’t have encouraged her to get involved w. the mess he created!
I do believe Jon tried to explain-away all of those 5 gal flings as women wanting to capitalize on his fame. That was ONE observation he did get VERY right.
TC it would probably help your arguement if you actually read and comprehended posts. No one said Kate was correcting tabs. I’m not shocked that you don’t comprehend what is being said though.
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How is Kate commenting on anything any different than Jon commenting on anything? How is Kate stating that Jon was given the BBB somehow seen as a negative and Jon correcting a tab report seen as a positive? That logic is mind boggling! If Kate shouldn’t comment on anything, how would it make sense to not expect the same of Jon?
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I’d also like to know how haters reconcile the fact that they claim Kate kicked Jon to the curb but is somehow jealous that he is gone and has a new partner. I guess ignoring the obvious signs that Jon was already wandering before she ‘kicked him to the curb’ helps that flawed logic
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Marnie, You really don’t know what you are talking about. All you can do is copy/paste comments and THINK you are being smart. You question my comprehension and you are the one who repeatedly gets confused on why something is said or where something is commented here. Whateveh.
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You should purchase the new Glee CD this year–Fab!!
TC, I don’t know that Kate read the article herself. I think someone mentioned something to Kate via Twitter about the repo story. I have no problem if she says she KNOWS he is driving the BBB (and tells how she knows) to respond to the inaccurate info. She has been consistent in saying the inaccurate information annoys her.
I didn’t see it as patting herself on the back.
If that BBB was her property (through division of marital assets) then it was pretty nice of her to give it to him.
It might be worth more just because of it’s famous TV past. I wonder if Jon will trade it for something smaller and sportier?
I hope NOT…Ann! I should hope when Jon took over the title, it was w. the understanding…he now had safe transport for the 8 – independent of relying on Kate’s new van. One would think there should be an end to her having to provide wheels so Jon can enjoy weekends w. all 8! (I’d hate to guess how much it costs to fill the BBB w. gas…much less the maintenance on a 7 yr. old well used van. I’d also assume he got the safety seats too!
I hope not, either, HB. I hope if he trades it for something else, it’s something that seats 9 without maintenance problems.
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I just shake my head thinking about the material wealth Jon blew through to bring him to this place. He surrounded himself with the WRONG people when he had the means to buy a business he would enjoy: something like a diner or part ownership of a golf course or ski shop- something like that. He has great people skills, apparently, and would have made a good host at something that required him to draw and keep customers happy. I think when he was in his Ed Hardy phase, he was told he was too big for the Berks County area. It’s really too bad.
Pam, we had snow for Halloween here. We haven’t seen it since. It’s definitely too warm right now. Thanks for the Google trick.
Ann, undoubtedly you are right about Jon having ‘great people skills’. Unfortunately he never learned how to channel that into being a self-sufficient, stand-alone adult…w. a firm grip in business. Over 2 yrs. w. NO record of keeping a job…& if his financial woes REALLY do exist (as in owing Hailey, LaFair, Kate etc.) it doesn’t bode well for the future. I hope I am wrong, but sadly there must be good reason Kate goes ahead, full steam, not expecting much from Jon outside of what is important…loving & being an active part of the 8’s lives!
I suspect that IF the tables were reversed in this situation, Jon would not be handing over a BBB title b/c it’s in the 8’s best interest. As long as Kate is in the public eye, I don’t think there will ever be a truly ‘private Jon’. ‘No comment’ is beyond his id…or ‘sources close to’ him.
HB, your comments border on ridiculous and gossipy. You have no idea of Jon’s financial situation as no one else does either. Yet everybody on these blogs is an armchair accountant who is keenly aware of NOTHING about him. We have no idea where Jon stands financially or job wise. There has been a lot of speculation on his job status. Jon has never said what he was doing, yet some fans think they can surmise from his tweets or lack of saying anything where he is employed and how much money he has. Then you go on to say he wouldn’t give the title, how do you know this? You don’t, it is simple gossip and drama blog material.
How do you know he hasn’t “learned to channel that into being a self sufficient” person? That is pure gossip. What does that even mean? The man is an adult who runs his life the way he wants, not the way some fans think he should. Fans who think that he is dissing his kids because he doesn’t jump to Kate defense when she tweets stupid things and the “haters” pick on her. You make sure to throw Hailey and Laflair into your statement. Hailey is as believable as a $5 whore and laflair said Jon didn’t owe her anything, in fact it was Kate who lost the original case, remember? (Kate didn’t win if the complaintant drops the suit),
I dont think the terms “man” and “adult” can be used to describe Jon Gosselin. Chronologically he’s over 18 for sure, but I think the old saying “Growing older is inevitable, growing up is an option” definitely applies to him. IMO a “man” is a mature adult male, Jon is not mature even in the broadest sense of the word. He’s needy, can’t be without a woman in his life and he seems to gravitate towards the strong willed dominate woman with the exception of Hailey which he admitted he verbally abused. Jon is totally transparent to most anyone with a brain. Actions do indeed speak louder than words.
Let’s discuss the opinion or the comment left without demeaning or degrading the person that left it. All that does is stop any discussion and create discord.
That last comment was directed towards some comments that were deleted.
#83 – Jon is happy and in a relationship and people just can’t stand that. How in the world do you think you know him enough to call him “needy”? Based on what? Gossipy rude drama blog chatter? Plus how do you think you know Ellen enough to determine she is a strong willed dominate woman? You comment as if you know Jon and what he wants in life. You know NOTHING about Jon. I don’t believe he EVER said he verbally abused Hailey. I really don’t care to know where you think you saw him say that either. Transparent to anyone with a brain? What the heck does that even mean? I guess the haters feel they know Kate enough to question her motives or call BS to things she says, so why wouldn’t a few fans think they know Jon well enough to make up their own BS.
Considering the way J&K’s life has played out over the last 4 years, I would say Jon is dealing with life in a very mature way. He has made his share of mistakes, just as Kate has. The difference is that Jon’s mistakes are amplified and analyzed by every armchair critic out there and then blogged about as if they have direct knowledge of what happens on a daily basis in the life of Jon & Ellen.
‘Gossipy’ & ‘ridiculous’ w. plenty of qualifiers. Don’t put accounting on my plate. As for Jon’s job after putting up solar panels…he stated he had a 9-5 in tech support. As for Hailey…tell her parents that they should NOT be dealing w. what Jon did to their family, STILL! Tell Sylvia La Fair not to put out info that Jon’s outstanding bill is something he is dealing w.! Tell List, Heller & who knows who else is in line…their payments from Jon are in the mail. I ‘d say if a man, w. any sense at all, would not have had to cash in his 401k shortly after he’d signed onto an enormous cs agreement. ALL of this is from Jon’s mouth – not speculation.
Kmom2 – could not agree more.
Tcparra, I truly LOL at your last comment. I don’t disagree with you that Jon’s mistakes are amplified and analyzed by some but there is no comparison to what Kate receives on that end.
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I would venture to guess that both Jon and Kate are dealing with life right now in a mature way and they are both doing their best to take care of their children.
TCparra:
December 17th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Marnie, You really don’t know what you are talking about. All you can do is copy/paste comments and THINK you are being smart. You question my comprehension and you are the one who repeatedly gets confused on why something is said or where something is commented here. Whateveh.
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I c&p the post I am referring toi TC, you getting upset about it proves you don’t read, comprehend or like being personally addressed.
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If discussing Jon’s maturity level and finacial stability is gossipy, rude and according to you, CANNOT be know, how could you possible think your opinion about his relationship status is anything other than gossip and blowing smoke out your butt? What makes your statements anymore valid than anyone else’s here?
As much as Kates fans would love for Jon to lose his girlfriend and end up under a bridge clutching his signed copies of Kate’s books mumbling that he “should have stayed married to the wonderful Kate”, IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. You can surmise and speculate and pontificate and meditate till the cows come home. I know it makes trash blogging Jon a lot easier if you read and believe every BS story published about him. The same goes for trashing Kate, if people hang on every word printed about her and what “sources” say then making up BS to blog about is easy. Problem is, most of these articles are made up, rehashed nonsense. At least most sane fans and non fans are aware of how these sites get their stories and have stopped treating them as gospel. Of course the drama blogs don’t stop because they need their readers.
So is it ok if someone here posts that they are sure Kate haters would love for Kate to lose their house and all of her money and be living in a shelter trying to get on a computer so she can read Ellen’s blog and mumbling “Why didn’t I stay married to Jon and then I would have a blog like that too?”
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The things you say make no sense just like what I just said makes no sense.
Oh but Pam…if this wasn’t YOU…it might just fly! ;0)
Marnie, the only thing I get upset with is being called stupid and that you are allowed to call me that. When you say I don’t read or comprehend, that is calling me stupid. I could care less if you address me directly or not, most responses to my comments are addressed to me either directly or subtly. My opinions about his relationship are just that, opinions. I am not saying Kate is crazy and needs help or that she is needy and can’t survive without Jon’s help.
What Jon has said about his finances is his business. What is still owed and not owed is his business and certainly not known by anyone who is commenting on blogs. Cashing out 401 plans is not unique to Jon. There are a lot of people who do that everyday. What you read on blogs doesn’t paint a picture of his net worth. Just as believing an ex GF doesn’t paint a true picture of his current financial standing.
Marnie called you stupid? I missed that.
TCparra, I disagree with you. I went back and read the comments on this thread and no one attacked you like you did in the comments that I deleted. Kmom2 and HB said nothing to you even close to what you said to them.
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I think we can continue to discuss and or debate here like adults if we just don’t take what people say about Jon and Kate personally and we discuss the opinion without having to say specific digs to the person saying them. I think we have all done this to some degree in the past, myself included. I would like to try and move on without getting hung up on who said what to who.
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What does everyone want for Christmas? https://imperfectwomen.com/all-i-want-for-christmas-2/
I think Kate has made it very clear that she has happily moved on & its to everyone involved benefit if Jon is happy & productive.
Hi HB, I happen to think you’re lovely !
Pam, my point did get lost in what I was trying to say. I guess when fans say things like Jon is needy and not a man or mature it’s the same nonsense as when non fans question Kate and the things she does. Nobody really knows Kate or Jon or how they are in real life, most comments and opinions are based on gossip or made up in their mind and commented on like they are real. I am not questioning this blog or it’s value of content. There are some blogs that thrive on made up or twisted spins on history to keep their pathetic blog alive.
Well, comment # 90 is rather rude and calling me stupid without saying the word.
#92 TC,We were wishing Jon well not wishing him to lose everything and live under a bridge.You were the one who came on and started ruined the good will. Sorry Mods.
Take out the word started.
My comments were not THAT bad Pam. I may have made a dig at them and saying they won the booby prize, but I don’t think they were that bad.
LOl, maybe they weren’t THAT bad but they were intended to poke and I knew that nothing positive would come of putting them through.
tc your continual pointing out that any non kate hater knows nothing of which they speak if it pertains to jon and you always throw in ellen. now i ask you? how do you know what goes on with jon? ellen? personally as i read the pro kate or neutral sites i never think of either jon or ellen. the last few days some have been pleased w/jon being nice and equally pleased w/kaye for interacting w jon in a civil way. then along comes tc and you keep trying to incite a “dog fight ” among the posters. reminds me of a bully who continues to push for a fight. it just becomes boring. and i move on, hoping you’re getting your kicks. i think the only way you could actually know is you’re ellen, (only because you want us to LOVE ellen, or jon whose using this method to pat himselfon the back.
I have read the comments here about Jon, and it seems some people keep on harking about Ellen and her “pissy” dogs. This is just so outrageous that I have to laugh.
Why do most of the fan sites diss on Jon(and/or Ellen) to validate what Kate does? It seems to me, that the only way you can validate what Kate does or says, is to attack Jon and/or Ellen.
Some here say Jon and Ellen live together with their “pissy dogs”. Those same people also state that the kids sleep on the floor in his apartment. How does anyone know that?
Nobody knows the “facts” of Jon and Ellen’s life, and the only thing we know about Kate’s life is what she tells us via twitter or her blog.
I find it sad that the only way some people can stand up for Kate, is to find fault with Jon.
Pam, I’d gladly accept ‘a booby prize’..& I’d share that award w. the players in the Gosselin saga who indeed said what I cited…unless Jon, Sylvia, Mrs. Glassman etc. scribe/voice falsehoods. As for Ellen…I think she lives breathes all the attention she’s getting. Yep, that’s my GUESS. It didn’t take very long for her to tap into Gosselin…! That may be something other girlfriends might think clever, but I think it’s tasteless. Yes, I know…being critical of a perfect stranger is equally tasteless…BUT, I think by the time I was Ellen’s age…I’d have made wiser decisions. Actually, I KNOW I would have.
I do find it amusing that the only way some people can support Kate is to attack Jon or Ellen. Kate may not be jealous of Ellen, but it seems a lot of Kate’s supporters are.
Pam the snow thing is awesome! thanks for sharing that!
It is nice. Especially for those of us that don’t see snow much. 😉
TCparra says:
December 18, 2011 at 11:21 am
As much as Kates fans would love for Jon to lose his girlfriend and end up under a bridge clutching his signed copies of Kate’s books mumbling that he “should have stayed married to the wonderful Kate”, IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. You can surmise and speculate and pontificate and meditate till the cows come home. I know it makes trash blogging Jon a lot easier if you read and believe every BS story published about him. The same goes for trashing Kate, if people hang on every word printed about her and what “sources” say then making up BS to blog about is easy. Problem is, most of these articles are made up, rehashed nonsense. At least most sane fans and non fans are aware of how these sites get their stories and have stopped treating them as gospel. Of course the drama blogs don’t stop because they need their readers.
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Are you reading this blog? Please point out where anyone even insinuated that they’d like Jon to lose his girlfriend and live under a bridge? Talk about DRAMA.
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If I wanted to stay you were stupid TC, I’d just come out and say it. Don’t go stirring up drama where there isn’t any. I noticed you side stepped the question I asked, that’s ok, that’s usually what you do anyway.
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I will send anyone snow anytime they’d like it!!!!
Marnie,
I’d take a little snow, just enough to cover the ground. First time in many years we have no snow. Our first snowfall lasted on the ground about a week. We had rain and warm temps and now it is gone. Almost 53 here today, that’s crazy for my neck of the woods.
#111, are you talking about question # 90? I thought you simply were making a general statement. I didn’t know I was being quizzed.
“If discussing Jon’s maturity level and finacial stability is gossipy, rude and according to you, CANNOT be know, how could you possible think your opinion about his relationship status is anything other than gossip and blowing smoke out your butt? ___ WELL, my only opinion has been that what he does is his business and NOBODY knows what he does in his personal life. ___ What makes your statements anymore valid than anyone else’s here?” ___ I don’t claim to be any smarter or have any smarter views than you or the next blogger.
#111 – Come on, Drama? Maybe you have a hard time comprehending sarcasm. I would think the part about clutching Kates books would have given you a clue I was being sarcastic.
“I find it sad that the only way some people can stand up for Kate, is to find fault with Jon.”
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What I find sad is the extreme hatred shown for Kate on Twitter and the hate sites. Now that is so very sad. If that didn’t exist, I doubt very much that anyone would feel the need to defend Kate.
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I personally, do not give Jon and Ellen much thought anymore unless something comes across in Google alerts. I don’t visit Ellen’s blog and I have no idea what she is up to. As I have stated before, IW has only done maybe four or five at the most main posts about Jon since April. As opposed to almost every single post on the hate sites directed at Kate.
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I for one do not find any of that hatred amusing.
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So I ask you addie, are you over at the BL’s or any of the other hate sites asking these same pressing questions to them? Are you over there asking them why they feel the need to hate on Kate? Why they feel the need to make up things about Kate to make Jon look better? Because that definitely goes on there.
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If you are, please direct me to those questions. If you are not…..well that is what I find amusing.
Sorry TC, I’m not hand feeding you questions already asked. You consistently side step, it’s a pattern I don’t expect you to break
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The posters here weren’t questioning anything other than HollyBaby’s words on Ellen and Jon. That’s a hater (IMO) bringing up Ellen and Jon, not a Kate fan.
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I think it’s awesome that any celeb corrects tabs. People should be able to freely correct misinformation.
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Snickers-we are actually having a bizarre weather time for my neck of the woods. It’s been above 0 several times lately and we have very little snow. That is unheard of here! I’m thinking we’ll get hit in January. Farmer’s almanac says a bitterly cold winter with little snow and that is rarely wrong.
I just have to ask…….. What\where are these ‘drama blogs’ that you refer to so often? If they’re so drama filled, why on earth even visit them?
Marnie, don’t play games. If you are going to quiz me, then at least help me with the questions. I don’t think every time I see a question mark I am supposed to answer or risk failing the test. Whatever. Sidestep? Now you are just making stuff up. I have no problem answering questions asked of me. Besides, I did answer a question you asked me and its too bad if you can’t see that.
I see where Hollybaby is reporting that Kate is dating someone. I wonder if Kate will tweet about that if asked.
Pam,
Maybe someone here has the scoop on Kate. Seems like she knows all about J/E. Source close to Jon??
Oh my, I hope Bonnie has a scoop. 1st it was a PA football coach, then Steve…I hope it’s some buff trainer/marathoner for the ‘staahz’. The ONLY thing that rings true…Kate would never bring around a date to meet her children. At least NOT for a very LONG, LONG time. It sounds like payback from that same source who said Kate is jealous of…Ellen! ;0) Poor Bonnie…when there’s nothing to gab about, she knows her Gosselin sources are brimming w. all sorts of insider tall tales.
Marnie said …Are you reading this blog? Please point out where anyone even insinuated that they’d like Jon to lose his girlfriend and live under a bridge? Talk about DRAMA.
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Marnie said…
I just have to ask…….. What\where are these ‘drama blogs’ that you refer to so often? If they’re so drama filled, why on earth even visit them?
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Marnie that comment gave me laughter tears!
Thank you Marnie a good laugh is the best!
i’m laughing with you CoCo- Marnie, I always wonder the same thing.
FYI: Sage asked us for a little help with our background knowledge of the BBB and Ann stepped up to the plate again and found the information. The BBB was not donated to Jon and Kate, but was purchased by them. Sage has a post up and you can read it there or here is the link to where they indicated they had purchased the van. http://web.archive.org/web/20051125014019/http://www.sixgosselins.com/
TC Besides the questions CoCo so kindly cut and paste. The one you really missed, but claimed to have answered is……If discussing Jon’s maturity level and finacial stability is gossipy, rude and according to you, CANNOT be know, how could you possible think your opinion about his relationship status is anything other than gossip and blowing smoke out your butt? What makes your statements anymore valid than anyone else’s here? PLEASE ANSWER THE VERY LAST QUESTION. PLEASE!
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You consistently claim no one knows Jon or Ellen yet YOU claim YOU know that they are happy and mature, what gives you that impression?
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I hope Kate is dating. She’s taken the single life slowly.
Marnie,
She might be the source close to J/E?? 🙂
Marnie, do YOU read the comments? Did you see my comment # 113 where I do answer your quiz and VERY LAST QUESTION?
I only claim they are happy and mature because that’s what you would hope, wouldn’t you? Unless you believe in conspiracy theories like #127 and I might actually KNOW Jon & Ellen? I guess that’s what keeps the internet buzzing when people start to believe what they read. For the record: I don’t know them and only wish them well and happiness and stress free raising of the kids, as long as they remain a couple.
Do you read at other blogs? Probably do. Regardless, it’s none of your business why I read other blogs. Maybe because I get a kick out of the nonsense that is posted. The world would be boring if you couldn’t read a fairy tale once in awhile.
For the record: I don’t know them and only wish them well and happiness and stress free raising of the kids, as long as they remain a couple. ~ tcparra
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Jon sees the kids every other weekend so he IS NOT raising them. What has Kate ever done to you that you don’t wish her happiness and instead constantly criticize her?
TCparra you seem confrontational in the extreme.You often seem to be in a rage about some innocent remarks. May I please request that you try your best to temper your comments with just a small amount of good will toward others, after all ’tis the season.I would so enjoy reading lighthearted and jocular comments from you. Smile, be happy! No matter what Jon, Ellen, or Kate say or do it will never have any effect on the balance of nature.
GW, I am not going to even dignify your comment with a response. If you don’t think a father is raising his children just because he one half of a divorced couple, regardless of his custody time, then there is no way to have a real mature conversation with you. Also, if you feel ALL I do is criticize Kate then you don’t read all the comments.
Saying they ARE happy and mature is A LOT different than saying you HOPE they are. That still doesn’t answer why you seem to think your thoughts are any more valid than anyone else’s here.
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If it’s none of my business what other blogs you read at, why to you continually bring them up here and make them everyone’s business?
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I don’t think every time I see a question mark I am supposed to answer or risk failing the test. ———-what exactly do you think the ? Means?
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Marnie, I’m not getting into a pissing contest with you. A question mark doesn’t always represent a comment that you are required to answer. I answered your questions and if you can’t comprehend them through your rose colored glasses than I can’t help you. Have a nice day.
I didn’t expect anything other than that TC. Your track record speaks for itself.
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+4 here in Northern Alberta, unheard of this time of year! Out to enjoy it before -40 finds us!
tc – Please explain how a father can raise his children when he only sees them every other weekend. Using your logic all a man has to do is supply his sperm and he gets credit for raising a kid.
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You seem to state “no way to have a real mature conversation with you” when you know you are wrong. Yes, ALL you do is criticize Kate. Even if you state something nice you have to negate it with some snarky BS.
BRRR, Marnie! I think most of those ski resorts would love that cold front to shift cross your southern border!
Be sure to keep those ‘rose colored glasses’ on! ;0) Though I don’t think most here need help to find the positive ~ w. props.
It does look like both Jon & Ellen have decided that they’ve closed their doors to Twitter. Hopefully that means they have enough followers to make a go of their various internet ventures. I’m not sure how that works w. a ‘PR friendly fashion & advice blog’…but surely after 2 yrs. of hawking they’ve found their way. Good for them!
GW, you clearly are one of the people who call a man a sperm donor and thats all he is good for. You are basing your “Knowledge” of Jon’s custody based on some tweets from your idol. There has been discussion that he has them way more than what is “reported”. Whatever. I’m not going to split hairs with you on what Jon does and doesn’t do with his kids that help them to become happy and healthy kids. Maybe we should ask the helpers who Kate has admitted she has how THEY are raising the kids. Just because Kate is the primary parent, doesn’t mean she is raising them either. Everytime she leaves for some “gig”, how does that help her children? Does she get a pass just because they live in the “mine, all mine” mansion?
TC: ” Everytime she leaves for some “gig”, how does that help her children?”
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Seriously, are you for real? I guess earning a living, providing for her children doesn’t mean as much as the 4 day a month gig Jon has. How do you think this family survives????? Kate has to work to earn a paycheck, and how she does that is nobody’s call but hers. Leaving her kids for a “gig” is a lot less than the remaining 26-27 days a month Jon is absent!!!
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“Does she get a pass just because they live in the “mine, all mine” mansion?” HAHAHAHAHA I love the “mansion” comments. Too funny!
tc – You are wrong AGAIN. My sperm donor comment was in reply to you saying a man is raising his kids no matter what the custody arrangements. Try to keep up please.
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How many times have you been told that Kate IS NOT our idol? No matter how many times you type that it will not make it true.
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Were these discussions that he has them way more on the hate blog you love? ROFLMAO Jon showed just how much he wants to keep the kids when he only took them for 24 hours when more time was offered. Period, the end.
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Kate is raising the kids not the helpers. Kate is with her kids more than most working mothers. What’s the matter tc did you not have a job that allowed you to travel? Do you think all women that do travel are not raising their kids? The house IS NOT a mansion. Your last sentence proves my point that you always have to add some snarky BS. Thanks.
I much prefer Jon’s description…’my country estate’.
Sure, sure, the racing gig in Vegas put food on the table. You should go to your favorite Drama blog and shout to the world your love for Kate, because no matter how much YOU deny it, she is YOUR idol since you believe every word she types. I am not going to argue if he is a father or not because of the time he has with them. Nobody knows his true time spent with them and nobody can try and convince me they do based on tweets from Kate. Since most of what they do is supposed to be private, I choose to not pay attention to gossip and type my fingers to the bone in defense of Jon or Kate. They are people who were in the public spot light because of the kids, NOT because of Kate or Jon (at first) then it became about the drama they brought as parents raising kids on TV. Period. Now all that is over and Kate is trying to stay current and in the media and Jon is a person outside of the media. Period.
TC, you must be so proud of yourself. We were all wishing Jon good luck and you come in and bring in the drama. You must feel very proud of yourself.Do you bring drama into your own family like this too? You seem to get off on it. BTW, Merry Christmas, I hope you find peace of mind.
sadie, if you read all the comments you would see that the drama started before I commented. Some were saying well wishes to Jon and some were doubting he could be up to date on his CS or he should defend Kate against the haters. Besides you are just repeating your comment from #101. You are just upset because I don’t speak “kate-ese” and babble on and on about Kate and how wonderful she is. I don’t do it for Jon either. It’s only that I speak the opposite of what most here say so I look like the big bad blogger. Whatever. I have never felt I wasn’t at peace in my mind.
I just went back and skimmed the comments on this thread. I don’t see any “babbling” from anyone or anyone going on and on about how wonderful Kate is. Only in your mind, TCparra.
Pam, I didnt say anyone here was babbling. I said I don’t babble on about my love for Kate.
“Most here” wished Jon nothing but the best on this thread so I am not so sure that we are all that far apart when it comes to Jon.
I also don’t think anyone here expects you to babble on about Kate or speak “kate-ese”.
I don’t wish bad things would happen to Jon. I don’t wish bad things to happen to Ellen. I have an opinion of them based on their own words/deeds, but that doesnt mean I bear ill will toward the
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I just got a wonderful text from my 17 yr old son (spending a few days with his grandma) saying he missed me and loves me…….my heart just melted. LOL LOL
Kmom2, That is what life is all about. What a wonderful Christmas present to you!
Thanks……I’m teary at work now! lol
TCparra:
December 20th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Sure, sure, the racing gig in Vegas put food on the table. You should go to your favorite Drama blog and shout to the world your love for Kate, because no matter how much YOU deny it, she is YOUR idol since you believe every word she types. I am not going to argue if he is a father or not because of the time he has with them. Nobody knows his true time spent with them and nobody can try and convince me they do based on tweets from Kate. Since most of what they do is supposed to be private, I choose to not pay attention to gossip and type my fingers to the bone in defense of Jon or Kate. They are people who were in the public spot light because of the kids, NOT because of Kate or Jon (at first) then it became about the drama they brought as parents raising kids on TV. Period. Now all that is over and Kate is trying to stay current and in the media and Jon is a person outside of the media. Period.
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The only people claiming Kate’s marathon was a paid gig are rabid haters. Kate has stated numerous times it was a personal goal of hers. Travelling for a marathon isn’t a foreign concept, parents all over the world do it but somehow when Kate Gosselin does it, it’s child neglect, abandonment and abuse.
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Kate has stated on twitter and various news shows that Jon gets them every other weekend. Jon has given a few interviews in his time and has never denied his custody time or contradicted what Kate has said. How is a custody agreement ‘gossip’? Haters use that arguement to justify their silly self righteousness. Every other weekend is the most common custody arrangement but somehow this seems to be another foreign concept to haters
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I can’t even believe you would deny that you don’t champion Jon. Either you are being purposely obtuse or you have zero idea how you come of to the majority of people reading here. You consistently jump on anyone who utters Jon’ or Ellen’s name, call people liars when they have any sort of thought, opionion or feeling regarding either of them and you consistently snark on Kate.
“The only people claiming Kate’s marathon was a paid gig are rabid haters. Kate has stated numerous times it was a personal goal of hers. Travelling for a marathon isn’t a foreign concept, parents all over the world do it but somehow when Kate Gosselin does it, it’s child neglect, abandonment and abuse.”
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Marnie, it was child neglect, abandonment and abuse when Kate did Dancing with the Stars too. No other mother with children has been raked over the coals for participating in that show, ONLY Kate Gosselin. And also during that, Little Jon threw a “mantrum” went to his dad’s buddy who was a lawyer and filed custody papers claiming Kate was abandoning the kids. WHen word of the custody filing came out, and Jon was asked about it, Jon lied, said he never authorized it, never signed anything.
What a great guy he is.
Marnie, so you are going to tell me you know how I come off to readers here? I don’t “champion” Jon and I refuse to get in a discussion about the level of support I give to Jon or Ellen when I see stupid things said about them and their “pissy” dogs, etc. I only call someone a “liar” when they say they know something because they saw it somewhere and everyone is supposed to believe it, yet they refuse to support their story with some backup. In fact, I have not called them liars, but that I don’t believe what they are saying without support.
This is going nowhere. If you insist on being “right” about everything you feel, then feel that way. I am free to think and feel how I do about Kate.
Now all that is over and Kate is trying to stay current and in the media
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I just have to laugh at the above 2 comments. These are hater mantras yet haters lavish Kate with attention every single day. Haters make Kate a priority every day, they make her relevant to themselves daily. Haters seek Kate out, stalk pictures, her where abouts, her comings and goings, but out the other side of their mouths claim fans idolize and worship Kate.
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Funny stuff.
Wow, I didn’t see anyone here call JON a racing pig.
Since everyone is continuing on with saying kind things about Jon in spite of TCs words, let me compliment him by saying that boy sure can hold down a couch in a fine manner!
Talking about Kate here is NOT lavishing anything on Kate. I don’t twitter her or follow her tweets with baited breath and worry when she disappears for a few hours, like some do.
No, but you certainly do like to “bait”
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I don’t worry about Kate and her kids. This is something you think every person who defends Kate working and supporting her kids do.Heck, you know more about Kate than most posters, so I ASSume you dig for every tibet and you sure save us all time and eyes looking for the little things you seem to find out.
Jon owns what he has done, and yes, it was posted on ROL about the 3 pissy dogs. Get over it!!
Country estate was priceless, HB. I just hope the sources made enough $ for the kids to have a nice Christmas or for gas in the van. 🙂
This is going nowhere. If you insist on being “right” about everything you feel, then feel that way. I am free to think and feel how I do about Kate.
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You have called almost everyone on here that had anything opposing you a liar. You’ve also claimed Kate Gosselin is a liar, without any back up. Again, why do you suppose that you hold one standard and others another?
TC, got any good holiday recipes? 🙂
Good to see you lilsmom! 🙂
I had a recipe for a yummy lemon pie made with frozen lemon concentrate, cool whip and Gram cracker recipe, haven’t made it in so long because everyone is worried about their waist line. Pretty simple, mix and pour into crust, in fridge till hard then EAT! I am pretty sure I didn’t leave anything out, again I haven’t made it in so long I am not certain.
Marnie, I challenge you to copy/paste where I called someone a liar. Your interpretation of a lie as “implied” or some such doesn’t count. Love how you are trying to analyze me on why I feel “slighted”. Do you a leather couch and what are your hourly rates? lol.
Snickers, Not even sure where you come up with your conspiracy theories. Thats what they are. I know very little about Kate and only follow the blogs to the count of maybe 5, this one included. You believe that I am close to J or E and that is funny. You got a little too sensitive when I said pissy dogs. I know you love that term, as I have seen you use it repeatedly here and on another blog. Who really cares though? Oh, and I challenge YOU to find how many times I referenced Ellen’s dogs as pissy or at all. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to “GET OVER IT”. Then of course you end it with the Fan favorite line “the source got money”.
what exactly is “baiting”? I just don’t understand that. I do understand in a general sense what it means, but could you (Sadie) tell me how you mean it? Thanks!
TC,
It’s funny, pissy dogs. Ellen had to scramble to stop the story. Sorry, you may post at others blogs, not everyone else does. It’s another thing you ASSume. You just defend J/E to the core, it’s a chuckle for all to read. Now, it’s the Christmas Season, let people enjoy it.
snickers, I thought you’d be whipping up a ‘yummy lemon pie’. ;0)
It’s easier to use hand signals to communicate w. my dog than it is to prove a negative to most anyone whose whole premise is…Kate lies. The only truth we all seem to share…Kate, Jon & yes, Ellen are strangers.
I put a new post up https://imperfectwomen.com/kate-gosselin-debunks-datingnew-boyfriend-rumor/
Snickers, don’t fib. I have seen your comments at other blogs. Both aliases that you use. You have a strange definition of Core. I don’t get how me sticking up for them once in a while is “to the core”. How does someone scramble to “stop a story” Is that more of the conspiracy theory that people are able to change the internet and what is leaked or sold or made up about them? I did see the video she did. I don’t blame her either. It’s the same as when Kate “debunks” lies about her on twitter, right?
Your understanding of my premise is incorrect. I don’t say or believe Kate lies on everything.
Snickers, Not even sure where you come up with your conspiracy theories. Thats what they are.
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This is a post directly after challenging me to find where you claim someone is a liar. Now unless you mean litterally the word liar, I’m going to go ahead and call this one you claiming someone is lying.
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And I ask again, you claim all the talk about the custody agreement is gossip, back it up. Where’s the proof that it isn’t what Kate claims it is?
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Pam I love that Kate has corrected HollyBitchy a few times, even Jon has corrected her. It’s unfortunate that when Kate corrects her she’s called a liar, but when Jon has he’s given a pat on the back.
You should go to your favorite Drama blog and shout to the world your love for Kate, because no matter how much YOU deny it, she is YOUR idol since you believe every word she types.
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Snickers, don’t fib. I have seen your comments at other blogs. Both aliases that you use.
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Love how you are trying to analyze me on why I feel “slighted”. Do you a leather couch and what are your hourly rates? lol.
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I think maybe you should post your hourly rates. Those people you accuse of not knowing how they feel or eho they are might want to know 🙂
Well Marnie, calling a theory a Conspiracy theory is NOT calling someone a liar. Try again.
Good thing she corrected them. I think it is getting a little ridiculous and sleazy with these stories HB is coming out with.
#171, HUH? What are you trying to say?
Your understanding of my premise is incorrect. I don’t say or believe Kate lies on everything.
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Maybe it would be easier if you told us what you don’t think Kate has lied about…… You know since you’ve accused people of believing everything our ‘idol’ types. Enlighten us.
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So accusing someone of making up a conspiracy theory is not accusing them of lying? Just making stuff up, which isn’t lying? Please, oh please, settle this for all of us. I think you’re doing the semantics dance, didn’t use the word ‘lie’ so therefore I’m not accusing you of lying. It’s sort of the samw dance twitter haters do….. We don’t follow Kate, we just look up her tweets and anyone else’s tweets to Kate, but we’re not ‘following’ Kate. Dance, twirl, spin……
What about #171 confuses you TC? They are direct quotes from you.
Good thing she corrected them. I think it is getting a little ridiculous and sleazy with these stories HB is coming out with.
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Who’s ‘she’?
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Correct me if I’m wrong but HB spoke of Jon and Ellen, the only thing Kate has said about Jon lately is that he is now the owner of the BBB. What has ‘she’ corrected?
“I think maybe you should post your hourly rates. Those people you accuse of not knowing how they feel or eho they are might want to know” – Have no idea what you mean by this comment.
Marnie, I don’t feel I need to answer all your questions, just as I don’t expect people to answer all my questions.
I’m not settling anything for “all of us”. I’m glad that you think you are the ring leader. I said I never called anyone a liar. I haven’t. Period. Not believing something said and asking for “support or the source” is a valid question. Doesn’t mean it was a lie, it’s just helpful when there is support to back up some of the zany stories told by some.
TC,
Your paranoid and it’s showing. Really, deal with your issues and leave me alone.
HB has such a way with words, maybe over someones head.
tc – You have accused me many times of “making things up in my mind” which is the same thing as calling me a liar. And yes I can use my interpretation because you said it about me.
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You are confused about who uses aliases. That is what haters have been doing for years. If you had read the old posts on this site you would know that.
Have no idea what you mean by this commento
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I’m not saying you’re lying, I’m saying I don’t believe you.
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I don’t expect you to answer any questions here TC, in fact, I expect that you don’t and won’t.
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Since you’re such a stickler for ‘back up’. What do you have that would make you believe, with back up, that Kate Gosselin lies about Jon Gosselin having his kids every 2nd weekend?
Snickers, can’t handle the heat? Leave you alone? I think you should probably go back to the “little kids” table. How in the world am I paranoid? Why would I be? Makes no sense some of the things you comment on.
#176, lack of comprehension is something you accuse me of? “she” is Kate. Who else could it be correcting those stupid stories from Holly Baby “HB”.
#180 – What the heck are you talking about? I answer questions, not all of them. Why do you think I need to answer all of your questions? Glad you feel the need to be in charge and monitor questions asked and if they are answered.
“I think maybe you should post your hourly rates. Those people you accuse of not knowing how they feel or eho they are might want to know” – Have no idea what you mean by this comment.
Like I said, I didn’t understand your question or point. I can’t pass my quiz given by you if I don’t understand the questions.
TC,
You nit pick everything, it’s old. 🙂 I would hope the ignore button would work for everyone here. Things would be very pleasant. I love the saying, talk around them. Have a Merry Christmas TC.
TC you brought up hourly rates and now claim to not know what it means? Again, don’t think you’re lying, I just don’t believe you and it’s not surprising that you don’t understand someone using your logic on you but it is amusing.
Kmom2: I just got a wonderful text from my 17 yr old son (spending a few days with his grandma) saying he missed me and loves me…….my heart just melted. LOL LOL
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Lucky you! I think I’ll send my teen boy to visit his grandma. Maybe I’ll get one too.
Ann…..lol Thank you! I’m sure you will get one too!
Well, I for one am DELIGHTED that Kate took the high road in this whole car/van situation! Obviously this was a very expensive LUXURY to Jon, and too bad so sad it got repossessed…didn’t need it anyway, what does a father of 8 need a fancy schmancy car like that that wouldn’t hold more than one or two kids at a time anyway? Better off without that millstone around his neck! (One of many)
I was so proud of Kate for giving him the BBB free and clear…she could have sold it to him and used that money to pay her bills, or had him pay out a payment plan over time in addition to the CS he is required by law to pay. She could have sold the BBB to anyone else and made a profit! But she didn’t, as a MOTHER she thought about her KIDS first, and what would be best for them. So she gave Jon the BBB. When she saw so many people on her twitter feed worrying about how Jon was going to get his kids around those 48 days a year, she tweeted a short tweet to allay their many fears for this ‘wonderful’ father! So I say, KUDOS TO KATE! 🙂 I hope we see more ‘random acts of kindness’ from these parents in the future as they look out for their kids! Hope 2012 is better and he makes better lifestyle choices and decisions putting his kids first, and that life settles down for him now that he has reliable transportation! And IMO, I am praying the current GFF isn’t pregnant like everyone is saying, he needs that additional burdensome responsibility like he needs another hole in the head! Yikes!
I understand hourly rates. Geez, what are you relating that to? This is really going no where…
What do you mean it was repossessed. Would this be an example of baiting? What sources do you have for this tid bit of info?
Gee CJ, he didn’t deserve a little car, but Kate does? Did you forget about her little “fancy schmancy car”
BTW: I was being sarcastic in my comment about the “source”.
CJ, I do believe Jon debunked the repo of the BMW! He sold it last yr…or was it the yr. before? Too, I think a quick visit to Ellen’s blog might also quash that pregnancy rumor. She models a formfitting waist contour thingamajig. I particularly like those leg warmers she claims to do her running in. Poor dear, I think she must mean ‘walk’, ’cause I don’t think that running has helped much! Whateva, she’s taking her fashions very seriously. I hope she’s making a go of it.
I understand hourly rates. Geez, what are you relating that to? This is really going no where…
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I cut & pasted the posts I referred to, they are your words, what don’t you understand about them?
Look, can you just get to the point? This “dance” is getting old. When I said hourly rates, I was being funny about being psycho analyzed. No big deal.
I made my point TC, sorry you don’t see it, I can’t dumb it down anymore than it is.
If you want to play games, that is your choice. I don’t know what your point is any longer. I looked over the messages and can’t find the question I didn’t answer or point you brought up that is meant for me. You can’t dumb it down? Why try to be a smartass? You could simply tell me what you are so concerned about that you keep this dance up. Whateveh.